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How about during the signup process(step) the user gets instance allocated randomly? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by parrot@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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The biggest F U you get while signing up on lemmy is choosing a instance and I know this process acts as a filter in itself, clearing the randoms and normies. But if lemmy instance is assigned randomly, it is like hitting two birds with one stone. it solves discouragement you get when signing up but also distributes the load on different servers. the only downside I see with this is if the instance is closed.

Edit: I know there are a lot of variables and dependencies that I didn't think of earlier. But I just wanted to imagine a welcome page of lemmy with simple, and as less steps as possible in the sign up process.

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[-] Blaze@feddit.org 38 points 1 month ago

Good luck to them if they are randomly assigned to hexbear or lemmygrad

[-] Berin@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago

Yeah, the biggest problem with this approach is different moderation philosophies. You would have to set up a vetted set of approved non-problematic instances. I've read several accounts of people who tried out fedi and left soon after, and nothing sours the newcomer experience more than unknowingly joining an instance with a toxic community/moderators

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

You would have to set up a vetted set of approved non-problematic instances.

No instance will be perfect, but I think lemm.ee, lemmy.zip, and lemmy.sdf.org could be good candidates for generic instances to recommend. All in the top 20 instances, so they are decently well federated, but not centralizing to the largest instance (LemmyWorld).

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

Lemmy.sdf.org are still on 0.19.3, seems like they aren't following updates that closely.

They also had issues this week with federation: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/21675044?scrollToComments=true

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Ah, good catch. Any alternative you would recommend instead?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

lemmy.dbzer0.com ? Very solid instance, neutral name, no country or language attached.

[-] TseseJuer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

i can assure you they will see that name and think it's a spam site and go somewhere else

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Good choice. They're federated with LemmyWorld, correct? Just not the piracy community?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Correct!

[-] parrot@lemm.ee -5 points 1 month ago

I hear that, but wouldnt that also prevent echo chambers

[-] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Not if the admins of an instance want to maintain their echo chamber by shepherding discussions towards extremist viewpoints.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 22 points 1 month ago

Again... Are you people ignoring my work on purpose?

Sign up to https://fediverser.network
select "Find an instance"
answer simple questions (interests, languages)
get an instance recommendation

I know that the UX needs to improve, but it's super frustrating to see people talking about things like they are a completely novel concept.

[-] cron@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago

I'm on lemmy a lot, but have not seen your site yet. But I'm hesitant to register for a site to find out where to register.

Also, you seem to have a list of servers, where I was able to suggest one country. feddit.org serves the german-speaking fediverse, and that is at least four countries (if you count Liechtenstein).

[-] rglullis@communick.news 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The site is meant to be a crowdsourced database. You can go to https://fediverser.network/instances/feddit.org and add the countries. You can do one suggestion at a time. Once it is accepted, you can make new ones.

[-] Krafting@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's not ignoring if we don't know it even exists!

[-] Vittelius@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago

There is another downside. The local and global feeds are potent discovery tools. But they only work if you group people with similar interests onto the same instance. Your proposal assumes a certain amount of homogeneity. If everyone is interested in the same content anyway then yes you can distribute it randomly. But all the people interested in Linux memes are already here. If we are to expand our reach we need to have instances catering to other interests.

And it also doesn't work with international communities. German speakers for example go to feddit.org, precisely because that's where German content is going to be amplified via the local feed and therefore easier to discover (for people an that particular instance)

[-] cron@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Most users that are not from the english-speaking world can just join one of the few servers in their language:

german: 2 servers
spanish: 2 servers
portoguese: 2 servers
italian: 1 server
polish: 1 server

Source: join-lemmy.org

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

The list of communities by country is in the sidebar of !yurop@lemm.ee

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

I know this process acts as a filter in itself, clearing the randoms and normies.

This could be retained by having instances opt into/out of random allocation of new users.

[-] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 1 month ago

Instead of having it be completely random, I am thinking of a site similar to sub.rehab.

Instances that are open to public signup would register on the site, and give updated states on how many users they have along with a brief description of what they are for.

Users can decide roughly what size instance they'd like to join and view a list of matches. We could add a "I'm Feeling Lucky" button that picks a random one out from the list.