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Discord isn’t exactly known for generous file-sharing limits, still, the messaging app offered a 25MB limit to free users. The company has now updated its support page to reflect the upload limit for free users has been lowered to 10MB.

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 151 points 3 months ago (43 children)

It was a matter of time honestly

[–] orl0pl@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

You mean auto deleting?

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 85 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Huh, I wonder how enshitified it has to get before I stop seeing discord on FOSS projects.

It begins lol.

[–] dan@upvote.au 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

discord on FOSS projects

I don't understand why this was even a thing to begin with. FOSS projects using non-FOSS platforms is kinda weird, especially platforms with unclear financial situations like Discord.

[–] Kayana@ttrpg.network 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because you don't need to have significant experience or rent a VPS in order to do that, and I can respect that. We don't need to force FOSS developers to become proficient in everything.

What needs to happen is some kind of tool (ideally FOSS) that lets you spin up an actual forum with the same difficulty to set it up as Discord.

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago

It's a big lie. Why not offer the option to delete automatically after 24h if 15mb extra is so much storage?

Or is it about bandwidth? Why no automatic compression on desktop? Oh wait, that feature existed in the past was scrapped. They think you're fools.

[–] tron@midwest.social 51 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I moved a big group off Discord last year to Matrix chat (Element). It's been largely pretty alright. 100mb upload limit, we have a bot that downloads tiktoks/Instagram/reddit videos and uploads them to the channel so you never have to visit the sites. Pretty nice! Open source and federated, you guys should give it a try!

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 31 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Matrix is nice, but it's still very bad UX wise.

I've used it on and off for years now, and about 2-4 times a month it loses my chat view encryption keys, and loses me my entire chat history. It also regularly has sync issues between devices signed into the same account, and is relatively slow sometimes to send messages.

Of course, that's just my anecdotal experience, but I've tried many messaging platforms over the years, and while Matrix (and multiple of its clients, primarily Element) is the most feature-complete compared to Discord, it's nowhere near properly usable long-term for a mass-market audience.

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[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Could anyone explain the attraction of discord? To me it's UX is atrocious.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Discord got big in online gaming because they offered a VOIP and text chat browser cliemt. Just copy or type the short link and you're in in a minute. They also did free hosting which was huge.

Compared to Teamspeak or Ventrilo, literally just eliminating the steps of downloading a client, installing it, and typing in an IP address caused them to explode overnight. Also you could "host" without changing router settings (most kids/students have to ask their parents or jump through hoops for this).

Technically there was stuff like Skype but that never had the convenient team speak style chat rooms to drop in and out of freely.

Within months of suddenly getting popular, discord had a huge userbase that everybody was using already, and that momentum got us to the point where in some aspects its even replacing the role of wiki's and forums even though its terrible at it.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

There’s no open source equivalent that does seamless audio and video streaming on every platform.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (31 children)

25 MB wasn't even enough to send a single full res screenshot of my desktop.

Its 2024 and we still lack the basic functionality of file sharing between peers without a corp dictator restricting and snooping.

Not that the functionality does not exist (p2p, literally) but if my grandma cant receive the family pictures its not basic.

EDIT: it is possible i am remembering this from when it was 8MB.

Empty desktop is just a few kb but it was not that hard to open enough stuff to exceed 10MB

Til that i have been sending screenshots of only half my screen for not reason

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 83 points 3 months ago (5 children)

That sounds like a you problem, because a PNG screenshot of my full 5120x1440 desktop is about 850 kB.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 months ago

Da fuck is your resolution?

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That makes no sense. The 24MP RAW files from my camera at 25MB, no way a PNG or JPEG of a 4K (8MP) monitor are anywhere close to that big.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

Discord continues down it's path to total enshittification, which is exactly what I told everyone would happen when this fucking dogshit app got pushed on me around 2018 or so.

It's a private company with a profit motive. Fucking shocker that it enshittifies. /s

Fucking dipshit gamers not knowing any better.

I was promoting Matrix/Riot.IM (now Element) and nobody gave a shit because it was too hard to use even though it mostly has the same interface as Discord. (Which, by the way, fuck this interface.)

[–] simple@lemm.ee 67 points 3 months ago (6 children)

What an overreaction. Also FYI the free file limit was 8MB two years ago before they raised the limit to 25MB, so if anything it's gotten better.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 months ago

I saw this headline and was thinking, "Huh, I thought the limit was 8MB."

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Ok but why are you so angry about it?

I’ve been using it for years and haven’t had to pay a dime.

How have they harmed you with their free app?

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[–] Brutticus@lemm.ee 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I primarily use Discord as a one stop shop to play and run dnd campaigns. I first hopped on it around 2017, and its was way better than any other group chat app. Around the pandemic all my groups started playing on it and it became relatively seamless. I joined exactly one streamers discord but that is totally it. In general I wouldn't expect it to be a good archive, or forum, nor do I expect it to be secure. I use armchord on PC. I started using it before it was enshittified. For what it does, it does it pretty well.

For the record, I have used matrix and Signal. I think both have the issue that a critical mass of my friends don't use them. I liked Signal a lot when it had SMS support. I used it as a my primary SMS app, and some of my friends had signal as well, so that was cool. now its more like a specialized messenger app, and I fucking hate having yet another one of those on my phone. Matrix encryption keys are giant stumbling blocks to my friends who do give a fuck. I play ttrpgs with some people who could not give a fuck. I would have to set up the server, set up the account, and then I would have have to do the encryption key for them. And like people say, Matrix logs you out every little while. You can turn notifications off and totally forget about it. For my non techy friends, this is literally a bridge too far.

I literally have two friends who think Matrix is cool. No one else even has an account, much less a server. And the support to meet people who have this app is very limited. Cool, but I think it will always be a niche.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

It took me a lot of convincing to get my friends on Signal instead of WhatsApp. I believe WhatsApp was talking about adding advertising or charging money, and I used that to get people to switch.

This reminds me of the argument I see from Linux users that Linux is just as easy to set up as Windows. I think it doesn't occur to people making that argument that most people never even set up Windows. It's just on their computer when they get it.

The setup needs to be fast and easy for people to consider it. Nobody will spend even 5 minutes figuring something out these days.

Edit to add that a bunch of younger people have never had a computer or laptop. They do their computer stuff on a phone or possibly a tablet and they definitely never did anything technical like reinstall the OS.

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[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Unlike other platforms, we store your files for as long as you need them, so it is crucial that we manage our storage sustainably

I mean, its great that they offer that, but all my files dont need to be permemnant. I would love the ability to review and delete old files

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[–] dog_@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Well, it is better than 8, but still sad.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

on mobile it's just a huge pile of stinky shit anyway

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[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

A feature that's be nice is giving you a higher upload limit if you make your upload temporary.

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