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JD Vance's racism made Trump even more crazy looking (slrpnk.net)

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 118 points 1 month ago

I saw the clip and I wish the moderators or Kamala had the balls to ask:

Where did you see that on TV and are you concerned misinformation is so advanced that even you are falling for it?

He'd have 100% thrown someone under the bus like he did with Faux News, it was a huge opportunity to frame it in a way that trump would burn any bridge to avoid looking dumb.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago

I think the point was to show the world how batshit crazy Trump was. He showed it and Kamala moved on to the next topic

Honestly, it reminded me of watching a cross examination in a courtroom drama. You get the witness to say what you want them to say, get it on record in front of the jury, then you move on before they get the chance to undo any of the damage they just did to themselves.

It was perfect!

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Does it show him as crazy or do voters eat it up? I have no idea anymore.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

His voters think that he is the path to Christian Fascism- their only chance at it, in fact. They will overlook everything because they think they have no choice.

[-] Zirconium@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

His voters eat it up. Fox news will use every little bit of newspeak to change the story

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Fox news actually posted the "He'll eat you for breakfast" line on their Youtube channel. I'm not sure they think that makes harris look bad or if they are trying to wash their hands of trump.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I think the point was to show the world how batshit crazy Trump was.

Everyone has already known for decades now. That accomplishes nothing. Causing him to burn more bridges however is a tangible loss.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago

There are a lot of people, who do not care about politics at all and maybe just go and vote in the next election. Please do not underestimate how little the average voter cares.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 month ago

Votes come into 2 groups:

Partisans, who follow politics to a degree, informed, and already know who they are going to vote.
The Masses, they don't follow politics. They may watch the debate and probably going to decide who to vote on either one issue or on "vibes".

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yup, we talked about the election, and my coworker didn't even know who was running and didn't plan to vote.

[+] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -27 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't say "perfect" she did what an average American would be able to do it's just impossible to not compare her to Biden and trump.

Mr Bean would look like the orator of his generation (what we used to say about Biden 40 years ago) if we're only comparing him to Biden and trump.

We can't just ignore Kamala's faults, if we do the only pressure she'll have the next four years is to move to the right.

Don't get complacent, the fascists won't.

So I'm fine with saying Kamal did well, fine with saying she didn't great even.

But we should never say a candidate is perfect.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Bruh, I’m talking about debate performance exclusively. She did perfect! I think there were a lot of subtle things she did that manipulated Trump into acting the way he did.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

I’m proud of her!

May I split a hair?

I’d say… easier to defend “nearly perfect” - I’m sure if she created an edit where she gave new answers (think, magically, from a position of ignorance about what the opposition was about to say) it would be even better and could get to all but truly perfect.

I caught about 2-3 wording fumbles early on. Hey I’ll take it, that’s not a knock, wouldn’t bring it up outside the context of discussing perfect performances.

Wish we’d had her in the last debate :-/

[+] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -20 points 1 month ago

She did perfect!

So you think Kamala has zero room for improvement and it can only get worse from last night?

Because that's what perfect means, not a single bit that could have been handled better

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

If I say you bowled a perfect game, that doesn’t mean every aspect of your life is perfect and everything will only ever get worse for you. It means in that one game you played, you could not do any better. Maybe in the future you can bowl perfect games as well, but you can never beat that game.

Her debate performance was perfect. If she has a future debate, I believe it could only be worse.

This says nothing about Kamala as a person or candidate or vice/president or even as a bowler.

[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 13 points 1 month ago

It's wild that you had to explain the context of your remark as though it wasn't already clear as crystal.

[-] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

It's just because the other guy is fishing for some kind of "gotcha" comment tbh

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

It makes sense that Harris would have to pick and choose what she fact checked or she'd be spending all her time doing that.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 24 points 1 month ago

Yeah, she was making a very conscious decision to basically always respond, "That's a lie, here's why, not back to the actual question..."

[-] driving_crooner 7 points 1 month ago

Asking back is playing their game and letting them further their lies and misinformation.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

They did ask, Trump talked over the mods. I can't find a clip of the entire exchange, but the mod asked later as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5qoaj3YndQ

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Wow, I didn't watch the debate and now I'm kind of regretting that decision. That was hilarious.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

You can still watch it on CSPAN if you want to. I was glad I went back and watched its entirety because watching her skill at taking him down was something. The first 10 minutes are kind of scary, he seemed normal and accessible. Then she started her campaign.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I may. There's no way watching the debates will change who I'm voting for, so it's relatively low on my list of priorities. But if it's entertaining, I'll give it a watch.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I found it really entertaining if you like someone skillfully tearing someone apart. She let herself and trump get comfortable and then she stabbed him over and over with her words. She said things we've all wanted to say while using a lot of his terms. This was a masterclass. She stumbled maybe 2x in front of a psychopath, I thought it was pretty good.

Here's the CSPAN link: https://www.c-span.org/video/?538053-1/simulcast-abc-news-presidential-debate

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 83 points 1 month ago

"but I saw it on TV!" is the most geriatric and concerning defense trump could have offered

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago

Trump: Don't believe the media

Also Trump: But the TV!

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

General:

-"Me President! The enemy advances towards all big american cities, what are uour orders?"

The president:

-"This is what we're going to do, I saw this thing on TV one day, you're not gonna believe it."

General: (doesn't believe it.)

...

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago

Somehow it is someone else's fault that Donald is repeating lies on a nationally televised live event.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

I am inclined to agree. People with dementia like Trump might just repeat stuff they heard recently without a deeper understanding.

[-] wizblizz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Who downvoted you? The old senile insurrectionist felon should be rotting in a cell, not be given a national platform.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

If a candidate running for President of the United States of America can't even be responsible for what he says, then he definitely can't be responsible for nuclear launch codes. Disqualify him.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

Let's not pretend Trump isn't exactly as racist as Just Don't Vance.

[-] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 11 points 1 month ago

It's tough to fathom the people who bite at his bullshit. So much of it is plainly made up on the spot with no connection to reality, how does that not bother someone to the point where you might question giving this person executive authority...

[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Their defense will be "I was being sarcastic!" "It was just a joke!" Every time.

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Thank you JD Vance, very cool. Please do something similar again, preferably once right before the next debate, and once before election day.

[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

I seen it on the television.

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