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[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Ah. Xinjiang and Tibet should defintely be painted in red. Also Vietnam without a doubt. Korea is a matter of definition.

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[–] tdelmas@mamot.fr 2 points 3 months ago

@yogthos Technically, they have also invaded themselves.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)
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[–] LeLachs@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When did the US invade all of russia? (genuinely curious)

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[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yog, where is P̶a̶d̶m̶e̶ Tibet?

Is it safe? Is it alright?

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[–] Bot4Sale@fairdinkum.masto.host 1 points 3 months ago (23 children)

@yogthos Your map is wrong. This comment from the linked thread probably sums it up best...

"loaExMachina
@sh.itjust.works

Image says “Has invaded since PRC was founded”, not “is occupying right now”, don’t try to change the terms of the debate when contradicted. You still could’ve made a point that China invaded much fewer countries than the US, but at least try to have an accurate map or the accurate words."

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Look, can't we agree that neither country gives a shit about the working class? Nation states are so 20th century. Why not try something new and try dissolving the state and self organizing into communes that best reflect our beliefs and values?

That said... What do the different shades of colors mean in the top image? Only half fucked over?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Personally I think a gradual transition towards statelessness is necessary, because people are currently used to living in a state and are generally quite skeptical of sudden rapid change, even if it would be purely positive. Even if the capitalists were eliminated tomorrow and their propaganda networks shut down immediately, the general populace would still be infected by their brainworms for at least a generation.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Because i want rail roads crossing the world and massive buildings and a global shipping network and all the things that are only possible because of states. If u want to return to monkee feel free but the rest of us would like to have a civilization. Fundamentally i disagree with ur stupid ideals even IF we put aside the reality of defending anything that working people build from capital.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

Why not try something new and try dissolving the state and self organizing into communes that best reflect our beliefs and values?

Go ahead. If that works, I'd be delighted. Seems that all it ever ends up producing is a 15 person sex commune. When self-organizing commune lift a billion people from poverty and outmaneuver the US empire, I'll become an anarchist.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Look, can't we agree that neither country gives a shit about the working class?

I have almost the exact opposite take on China.

Shit government, surveil people, torture people, no internet-freedom.

Their huge massive redeeming feature os that they REALLY give a shit about their working class.

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