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Mastodon "leftists" (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 weeks ago by NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net to c/dredge_tank@hexbear.net
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Went both looking for fellow tankies and seeing who I should be blocking on Mastodon by looking at the hashtag #tankies.

It gave me brain damage and I also found a few of these "lemmy is made by tankies, ewww can't use it"-posts that I had never seen before. So sharing these for our mutual enjoyment:

Also just the general vibe of the posts with this tag is just so hostile. We really live rent free in these peoples heads. Interesting how so many of these were ukraine flag or isntreal flag profiles too, also a few anne applebaum replies, because of course.

The vibe is pretty much whatever this drivel is by a true communism understander:

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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 61 points 2 weeks ago

socialism and communism are merely forms of feudalism

I wish I could be this stupid. Not have to read, not have to care, just make up whatever on the spot and be convinced I'm right.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I tried to explain this feeling to a therapist once and they didn't understand. Imagine never having to think about issues of the day. Just gliding through life with a "it is what it is" attitude. Imagine never having to source your claims, and having an endless army of "normal people" lined up behind you to shout down the truth. Imagine a world built for you, that you never question, never doubt, and never feel betrayed by. Imagine only seeing justice and retribution where there is injustice and ruthless genocide. Just imagine how much simpler your life would be if bad guys were bad, and good guys were good, just like you were always told.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

It's the way a pigeon wins at checkers: just flap around, shit on the board, and leave.

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[-] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I felt this was pretty special. A new level of unserious even.

[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 46 points 2 weeks ago

ah yes, the dastardly tankies of lemmy are coming after trans people! Do not look at how many users on Hexbear are trans! Do not believe your lying eyes!

[-] Babs@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The tankies on Lemmy have moderation issues that leave trans users vulnerable.

Meanwhile on Hexbear, we used to ban people for even downvoting pro-trans threads.

Uphold TC69 Thought.

[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

Oh that's what's going on on the other commie instance? pretty cringe

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

lemmy vs lemmygrad, I belive. A common error

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't know you COULD downvote on Hexbear

[-] Babs@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Many years ago there was a downbear button. It's good that we got rid of it - now if someone says something you don't like you gotta engage, even if it's just to post a :downbear:

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

I really don’t understand why libs go so hard on that angle. They’ve been doing it since the subreddit days when it was one of the better subreddits for trans people.

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 46 points 2 weeks ago

Just astounds me that people can say stuff like "socialism is a form of feudalism" and think of themselves as clever, intelligent people. I've read like 3 actual theory books total and feel like a worm who failed kindergarten because of it

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't even take theory. People don't fight wars, especially civil wars, with people who have the same ideology as they do. The Russian Revolution, French Revolution, Chinese Civil War, and Spanish Civil War all had socialists/communists/anarchists on one side with the nobility and monarchs on another side.

Nearly every time commies have gone to war, it's been to kill fascists or monarchs. You don't have to read 60,731 books of theory to figure that out lmao

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

Not to be too sectarian but left-wing politics on mastodon is totally dominated by Epic Western Tech Job Anarchists who think China is doing a colonialism on Hong Kong. But it isn't Orientialist to hold this view because all states are invalid and people should be free of them. Why do they focus on this particular example? A mystery.

[-] Satanic_Mills@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

I like the term Anarcho-NATOist for these people.

All states are wrong but all actually existing anti-colonial struggles are conveniently problematic enough for me to disavow and shame you for supporting.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

Also known as NATO-leftists

[-] asante@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

i think anarcho-bidenist works too lol

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

Those are the Anarchist-In-Name-Only types.

"Two state solution? How about no state solution. Both sides are bad and neither get my support 😏"

They'd be out here denouncing figures like Durruti and Malatesta as tankies for what they advocated for and what they did, if they were alive today.

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

That's the smuglord anarchist playbook, you ALWAYS hate on the real revolutionaries doing what it takes to bring socialism in a world where imperialism is brutally powerful, just remember to sprinkle some actual progressive takes now and then so they don't confuse you for a fascist

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

The only constant for those fucks is "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO." More often than not they wish to lord over everyone else while clinging to that baby anarchist "caring about things is stupid actually, except for access to treats" principle.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 2 weeks ago

"Lemmy made by tankies" has been going on since forever. There is a popular mastodon account called feditips that lambasted Lemmy because dessalines "denies" uyghur genocide.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

I like to just ask those people if they deny the white genocide

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

"Communism is a form of Feudalism" certainly is a take

[-] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

Usually signs of lead in a home are more subtle

[-] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

People like that kept me a very confused radlib for a long time.

[-] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"actually, when capitalism kills people, it's feudalism that kills people, and feudalism is just a form of communism"

wow super informed person right here

because feudalism, a system where all land is privately owned by the wealthy and the rest of society works to pay rent to landlords is a form of communism. it's nothing like capitalism.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

Moments like these make me realize how many “intellectuals” are actually dumbasses

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao the last one would be peak comedy if only it wasn't said completely seriously. Also I have decided that I won't read history and theory any more, it turns out you can just make that stuff up as you like depending on the circumstance, that is much easier

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

Love to put a #hashtag on every #noun in the #sentence

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

You kind of have to on mastodon because they don't do keyword extraction to automatically pull posts into topical feeds like twitter does. Most people who aren't wankers just put them in a big list at the bottom of the post though, so as to seem a bit less early-2010s

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's a level of Very Online that I can't even dream of where #hashtags are verywhere and the top is covered with pretentious flag flare and maybe a sprinkled donut libbing-out

The top tiers would be a ZYBERTRUKKK with a QR code on the side.

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

BrooklynMan used to post on lemmy.ml also. Incredibly annoying dweeb.

[-] mustGo@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

There's always some kneejerk fool with poor reading comprehension and a complete lack of knowledge of #PoliticalEconomy and #PoliticalScience who thinks that being anti-socialism is automagically "right wing". #Socialism is a right wing philosophy, it, like #Fascism, is a sub-category of #Feudalism. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand what "left" and "right" mean, in political theory, and you have no business being in my mentions.

The only differences between #Socialism, #Fascism, and classical #Feudalism are the name we give to the ruling class and the means by which membership in that class is determined. This is not difficult to figure out. It all, always, goes back to the land. Who owns Nature? The State, the Party, the Volk, the Gentry, the Peerage. Membership by "merit", by "genetic heritage", or by "inheritance". Different names for the same #privileges.

Absolute banger takes from that account horsepoo-theory https://mstdn.plus/@gcvsa/113001895475656803

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

The politics understander has logged on!

[-] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Gotta love the misplaced confidence in these statements. Such confidence.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

There's always some kneejerk fool with poor reading comprehension and a complete lack of knowledge

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The picture of the "I voted" sticker on her chest as the pfp is the icing on the cake.

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[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

The unthreaded broadcast microblog format that Mastodon copied from Twitter inevitably leads to the worst possible takes rising to the surface.

I hope Elon destroys Twitter so completely that it somehow destroys Mastodon and Bluesky too.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

I have never once brigaded because I will never expose myself to lib brainrot that I can get anywhere else on the web. I'm sure that's true of most hexbear users.

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I remember BrooklynMan. The guy is such a turbolib.

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

[Banned]

packwatch

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Im on kolektiva, which is an OK anarchist-heavy instance. The federated home page (popular posts from all federated instances) is at least half lib drivel every day. I havent really used it much since i started hexbearing

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

It drives the tankies batshit crazy when we point out the death toll caused by Marxism and Maoism.

>mrw

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

#socialism and #communism are merely forms of feudalism

What a novel new kind of material analysis...

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think what that genius means is that if the poors are visible, it's like feudalism. A gentrified "prestige city" that has pretentiously minimalist Steve Jobs temples everywhere with impossibly high rents is the real "left" because the only visible peasants are the derelicts rounded up by the cops regularly. libbing-out

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What's with all the le epic hashtagging? Some Twitter shit?

I'd find that alone worthy of the Drej Tank.

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Its kinda true about Lemmy.ml being shit for trans people its why they should come here

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