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The multinational has removed dozens of apps, even though the Kremlin’s censorship body did not order the move. These services, half-permitted by the government, enable people in Russia to access social networks and independent media

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 148 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The U.S. company — whose phones are still sold in Russian stores despite the firm officially leaving the market due to the invasion of Ukraine...

Apple taking a brave stand as ever.

Edit: This was not the smartest comment.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Apple left Russia but their phones are still making it there from China. What stand do you mean?

Apple could still easily release updates for their phones that prevent anyone from connecting to a Russian cell tower or connecting to a Russian IP address.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I thought about that, but it would affect iPhone users from outside Russia who are traveling in Russia, and Apple probably wouldn't want that.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Is your expectation that Apple will send in troops to raid phone stores inside of Russia?

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Maybe they expect them to stop China from selling them to Russia, bahahaha

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I misunderstood and my comment wasn't well considered. It was even dumb.

[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 105 points 2 weeks ago

This is why you don't buy into closed-garden ecosystems like this. If you're on iOS, there's nothing you can do about it, you're at their mercy. Android has great support for side loading. There's really only one choice if you care about freedom.

[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You can side load on iPhone, it’s just not as easy. I have multiple side loaded apps.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Don't you have to renew them all the time though?

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

Not anymore if you use their new sideloading framework... which is only available in the EU

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

You still have to if you sign yourself. You still need a dev Account to sign for longer timeframe

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

So you're saying that Apple doesn't have great support for side loaded apps unlike Android.

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[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 54 points 2 weeks ago

Suspicious!

You can use most VPN services via the Wireguard or OpenVPN apps though, or even via some of the protocols natively supported by iOS not requiring any third-party app.

[-] noodles@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 weeks ago

Normies never heard about wireguard nor openvpn, this enough to deter a lot of ppl imo

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I'm not trying to imply otherwise.

[-] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago

The issue is 3rd party apps make it easier for non-techie people to subvert censorship. Raising the bar works bigly in the Kremlin's favor.

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Nothing suspicious. Russia is openly engaging in a war of aggression and money laundering. They have a storied history of corruption, kleptomania, and deceitful diplomacy (HUR HUR AMERICA BAD TOO!). An American company is trying to ~~do the bare minimum~~ put pressure on Russians.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Corporations. Are. Not. Your. Friend.

This message courtesy of corporations rent seeking on public infrastructure our economies cannot survive without.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I see no mention of what they actually removed or how reputable they are. "VPN apps" are a reasonably common approach to spyware. (Common enough that literally Facebook has done it.)

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You mean vpn apps deploy spyware?

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They're a good actual mechanism for spyware, because they see all your traffic.

Https means that they can't see the actual contents without installing a root certificate, but they can see all the sites you visit and for how long. Reputable providers (at least the good ones) do not log any of this, but you should have a high level of trust in a provider to use their VPN, because they see a lot still.

That doesn't mean that they didn't ban legit VPNs. I don't know. But it doesn't really qualify as "reporting news" without at least a list of the apps that were banned, because they're providing no information at all about the legitimacy of the apps, and it's a category appealing to bad actors.

[-] ftbd@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Not familiar with iphones, can't you just use plain wireguard?

[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why don't they just disable iphones entirely from accessing Russian cell towers and prevent iphones from connecting to Russian IP addresses?

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

While I understand your idea, thats a level of censorship in the hands of a private company that is so cyber punk dystopian that it makes William Gibson cry.

Imagine your phone will start playing the Chinese anthem before it sends your dickpicks to your mother

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Because then Russians would stop buying their phones.

[-] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Why are they selling iphones in Russia?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

To generate profit.

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