Shitty Forbes blog post, even.

I don't think it's fair to call Bethesda games RPGs. They're more like environmental looter shooters. And if you take them kind of easy breezy not serious you can have fun. But you're not going to get real roleplay.

You'll find some cool stories, but not roleplay

I'm not sure if everyone's opinion just changed over night, but saying anything bad about Skyrim or Bethesda games used to get you downvoted to hell in casual video game communities, and this is even a Bethesda community.

People praise Skyrim like it's the greatest game ever, like it's the only game they ever played. What happened?

It looks like one, but isnt as enjoyable as ones before. Might have been a bad choice to navigate the world in menu format. Quick travel to X location to explore. No walking around a big world, but many small ones. Even tiny ones.

That is how I feel. I've put so many hours into their games. If you like their games chances are you enjoy this one. The differences for a new IP are great, but much of the feel is there.

I didn't think I'd be able to play it for quite awhile since I don't have anything that can play it right now. Then I realized game pass can be played on some Samsung TVs and mine is one. Was worth the $17 to try it out and for the most part it has ran great.

I saw a video that claimed no one would have expected the way starship travel works and I'm like "I totally expected it to be work this way!" From the moment they announced it was still on Creation, I had expectations that space travel would be simple cell changes and not seamless travel. I actually expected it to be janky as fuck, too, when actually doing space combat but it's actually quite fine. I mean, the AI is dumb as shit, but it's not full of weird bullshit. The things that did not meet my expectations are all actually good things. I expected it to barely run; it runs fine even with unsupported hardware. I expected to see bugs aplenty; at worst, I've seen some ragdolls spaghettifi.

Maybe it just took getting a relatively stable release for people to realize they have always been fairly shallow action oriented games, with light story and narrative elements that aren't even that well written. There's nothing else to really whine about. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yup, and it has some level of replayability that previous titles didn't have.

Also every space sim in the last decade (yes, I know starfield isn't one). It's such a tired phrase at this point that it lost all meaning anyway.

true, and I have played an unhealthy amount of modded skyrim. let's resurrect the idiots who killed Morrowind, and remind them of their crimes.

You're allowed to have fun and enjoy things regardless of their quality level, and people who say otherwise are silly and rude.

That also means that just by the nature of enjoying something doesn't mean critiques of it are invalid, that would also be silly and rude.

I will say, as someone who is enjoying my time with it at about 30 hours currently… I felt the same way my first several hours. Which sucks - they absolutely bungled the intro hours of this game - but now that I’ve pushed through that awkward intro I’m having a great time. It’s scratching the same itch that Skyrim did. It’s what I hoped Fallout 4 would be but… in space.

I do tend to run to my ship and physically sit myself in the pilot seat before fast traveling… helps keep me immersed. It’s also a good middle-ground between the convenience of fast traveling to/from star systems and planets versus an endless fast travel menu sim.