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A self-described Nazi on Tuesday became the first person convicted in the Australian state of Victoria of performing an outlawed Nazi salute.

Jacob Hersant, 25, gave the salute and praised Nazi leader Adolf Hitler in front of news media cameras outside the Victoria County Court on Oct. 27, 2023, after he had appeared on a unrelated charge. It was six days after the Victoria state government had made the salute illegal.

The Federal Parliament passed legislation in December that outlawed nationwide performing the Nazi salute in public or to publicly display, or trade in, Nazi hate symbols.

A Melbourne magistrate found Hersant guilty, dismissing defense lawyers’ arguments that the gesture wasn’t a salute and that the ban unconstitutionally infringed upon Hersant’s implied freedom of political communication.

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[–] indomara@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

🦀 Nazi punks fuck off and rot in prison 🦀

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Yall doing that and meanwhile in America we are allowing one to run for the presidency.

[–] flubba86@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

How the heck is he 25? Dude has bushy old-man eyebrows and greying hair. He looks 55, not 25.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Hate ages you quicker than drugs

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

While I agree on him, some people do grey early. I started around 15 or so, and my father around 13. I still think some of his other features make him seem older as well though, like the eyebrows you mentioned.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Seriously I was confused too, I thought that might be his lawyer.

[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I'm in my 20s and always thought I was aging pretty badly but jeez yeah he fully looks mid to late 40s. A good mid to late 40s but definitely no younger if I were to guess.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Bad genes, which are also responsible for his criminality. Also probably an immigrant.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And a thousand free speech absolutists cried out ‘but now the Nazis won’t be publicly known!!!’

Nothing good has ever come from public gatherings of Nazis.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah I don't know what the right way to stop them is, but the Marketplace of Ideas sure as fuck isn't preventing Nazi delusions from spreading and taking root. I think we are ready to try alternative solutions such as jail or punches in the face.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Obviously this guy is a scum bag but what even is his angle here?

"look at me being punished for breaking this law everyone universally thinks is a great idea"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

It's the Jordan Peterson tactic. Except unlike Peterson, there actually are consequences when you do the thing this asshole did.

[–] blibla@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 months ago

who else started reading and fully expected it would say he becane Gouverneur or some shit

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Yes, this is the correct way to deal with Nazis. Everyone do what Australia does thank you.

[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You know every now and then Oz gets a w, it's rare but appreciated

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

A stupid man does stupid things and has real consequences. Anyone who is not stupid, even if he is a Nazi, will not have these problems

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

We're gonna need a new punk rock movement to get all these nazi punks to fuck off

[–] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

BRB, moving to Victoria Australia.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago

In this housing market?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago

didn't even clear his shoulder, fuckin' weak attempt. if he hadn't said hail Hitler I don't think anyone would have mistaken it for a salute.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The thing is: that Nazi scum will now be placed in an enclosed space that is full of marginalised people by going to prison. His time in there with them will perpetuate the culture of harm and discrimination.

Imprisonment is always the least-bad option out of a bunch of bad options.

I'm not really into the "send a message" aspect of punishment, I don't want this guy punished so that others of similar mind fear being punished.

However, I'm glad that his imprisonment clearly demonstrates that our society has resolved that nazism will not be tolerated.

If the price is this idiot being more extremified then so be it.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I saw the picture and my brain filled it with.....first Prime minister.... And I was bummed 😞. Not Australia! Then I finished reading and that made me jump like a kangaroo 🦘. You guys rock! Don't let a Trump ruin your nation too!

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Jacob Hersant

With a name like that...

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

I did nazi that coming.