What's wrong with social isolation?
Is the alternative that we all rent/buy (?) apartments? That sounds awful to me. I've lived in apartments my entire life and it is not pleasant due to the large amount of people that absolutely fucking suck. I would love to put some space between myself and these assholes. Ideally, I'd like to not really have neighbors at all after my lifetime of experiences.
The issue is that everyone in the long chain of apartment construction tries to cut corner to pocket more money.
So you get these cheap cardboard new apartment where you hear everything happening in the building.
It doesn't have to be like that. But the mentalities need to change, and the fuckfaces contractors need to be held accountable for their shitty work.
The alternative is that not everything needs to be either a skyscraper or a single family home. The phenomenon is called "missing middle housing", even has a wiki article you can read. Some people need to live in a flat due to not being able to afford a house. Property value would drop if middle housing became a thing - because developers wouldn't be able to scalp you on a house you need to have, because you could just get a cheap flat instead. Living in a 6-flat building is an entirely different thing from leaving in a huge block of flats too.
Like half of Europe lives like this.
That's interesting. While there are some outliers, there are only really 2 types of "urban" areas I've seen across the US. The single family/town home neighborhood and the apartment/businesses neighborhood. That's pretty broad, of course, but it covers a lot of it. Perhaps if there was more variety things would be better. I still think I'd like to move out of the city, personally, I'm burnt out on people.
To add to this, the ask isn't to build more apartments, the ask is to LET US
Single Family Zoning makes higher density housing illegal. If there are people who WANT to live in apartments they don't have that freedom because it's illegal in so much of the US.
No one wants to force you to live in an apartment, we just want to be able to choose to if we want to. let the market decide if we want houses or apartments
Yeah its a major problem in the US.
Wanting a bigger, more spread out home is totally reasonable.
Townhomes, for the US.
Wait, I'm stupid and didn't read it all. I'm seeing a pattern of mistakes on my end.
San Francisco has a bunch of mixed stuff.
Is the alternative that we all rent/buy (?) apartments?
No
duplexes/triplexes/etc. exist. And single-family housing does exist in mixed zoning areas. An SFH next to a duplex next to an apartment building is common in my city. However, in this case, the "back yard" is probably enough for a small garden and a bbq, but not a large lawn...which is fine, because there are parks in walking distance.
Ideally, I'd like to not really have neighbors at all after my lifetime of experiences.
Then city and suburbs aren't really for you, and it sounds like something very rural would suit you, and those around you, better.
I like how the assumption at the end is that I'm somehow an issue for those around me. I never stated that I, in turn, cause problems for the assholes around me. One thing I know about assholes is that they only escalate, so it is best to disengage if possible. But i suppose you're right; people who are obnoxiously loud at all hours, run/stomp around, yell/scream at each other, fight, shoot, allow their animals to urinate/deficate anywhere, urinate/deficate anywhere themselves, have loud ass animals, park vehicles just anywhere, have loud ass vehicles, etc. are probably saints, and I'm just a menace to society.
"if you meet one asshole, you met one asshole. If everyone you meet is an asshole, you're the asshole."
We don't know you, but if you dislike everyone you have ever lived near or known enough to not want neighbors then you might be the common thread. Maybe you brought the worst out in people or failed to bring out any good. But who knows, maybe you were just unlucky in the people you have met
bruh, look at you, i'm on the internet and don't want to be this close to you, trolls live in caves, maybe that'll be good for you, but then you might hear the water drip and the crickets chirp
Yes, how terrible of me! I hope you'll recover and find it in your heart to forgive me!
Then you agree that zoning should not force people to only live in one kind of home.
I agree that zoning, while necessary, has been used improperly in some cases. Obviously, you don't want a waste site near homes, hospitals, etc. On the other hand, there's no reason you can't have some kind of restaurant, grocery store, apartments, etc. in a neighborhood. In fact, that would be preferential, as it would reduce driving needs.
"I would be all for this, but you people all suck."
Exactly! Lol
Loved her quantum mechanics episode. Mostly went over my head but very interesting.
~~Source?~~
edit: Anyone have a source of her saying this?
Isn't it just a joke? I saw a similar one last week about quantum mechanics I think, she never said anything like this afaik
I think this could be stemming from another creator's jokes.
Her name is "CitiesbyDiana". I believe she started doing Cities Skylines and Truck Simulator content but that transformed over time into talking about urbanism in real life. She makes short-form videos that are hyper-edited "brainrot" and usually have AI voices. Either celebrities like Trump and Biden or OC characters like "Lane Man"- a prodigy of Robert Moses who advocates for paving the entire world with highways.
She's also moved to to other things. If you've seen memes about food or pharmaceutical grade glycine from Dongua Jjnglong, it originated with her ironically simping for the company as a joke.
I've noticed she's started to use AI to manipulate videos from podcasts, including Talk Tuah. I haven't seen this particular one video, but this seems right in line with the kind of content she creates.
Glad to see another Diana enjoyer. Her videos are the perfect satire of brainrot. It's so niche and I haven't found anyone else who enjoys it. Even my wife who is honestly as chronically online as me and used to watch all manner of stupid montage parodies and stuff back in the day doesn't enjoy her content.
https://www.tiktok.com/@citiesbydiana/video/7419729268629982507
…that low density zoning fits less people per square meter and requires more infrastructure than higher density housing?
I was asking for a source of her actually saying this.
I wasn't debating the claim. I'll fix my comment.
It's a meme right now to make up stuff that she says. She (very likely) didn't say this.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hawk-tuah-recently-went-viral-for-her-rant
Well, I feel silly now. I didn't realize that I was seeing the solarpunk memes content.
Poor health? My air is certainly cleaner than downtown NYC.
Now if major cities banned cars we'd be getting somewhere.
Air quality can certainly be impacted by density, but neighbourhoods that aren't car dependent promote exercise by giving people the ability to lak or bike wehn going out instead of driving (which can also help the overall air quality).
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