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[-] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

3d terrain tile streaming takes a crazy amount of data. it essentially downloads hundreds of png files at a time and overlays them over 3d terrain data. Everytime you move an inch or pan the camera, it pulls down new data.

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 229 points 1 day ago

Okay so after reading the article, that 150MB/s statement is doing a LOT of heavy lifting.

So first off, that was the fastest they recorded. So they just took that times an hour and said "Whoa if it stayed that sustained for the whole hour it'd be 81GB!!". Bam, clickbait title achieved. Ad revenue pleeeease

Now, for actual data, it looks like in rural areas it's about 10mbps and in cities about 100. I'll just throw it out there, why wpukdnt you want it to stream back as fast as possible?

This is like the same stupid RAM argument. I WANT you to use as much as you can! What is the point of paying for the pipe if you don't use everything you can?! There is no reason they shouldn't push it through faster. It's not more data, it's not a constant stream of 150MB/s like the garbage title claims, it peaks at 150MB/s. So good. I'm paying for gigabit, use the full pipe. When I'm playing a game that is my number one priority, give it to me as fast as you can.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago

150Mb/s, way different than 150MB/s...

[-] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

This is why I prefer MB/s and Mbit/s it's less ambiguous.

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[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 54 points 1 day ago

It's not just the bandwidth that's the issue it's the amount of data as many people have datacaps.

The article says:

official Microsoft bandwidth recommendation for that game was 50 Mb/s.

which comes out to 23GB/hr. That can add up quick. 10 hours in a month equates to 20% of my cap with Comcast.

This also neglects people who live in rural areas that might not even have 50Mbps available and can't play because MS streams half the game to you rather than include it in the install files.

Also *Mb/s not MB/s

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 38 points 1 day ago

Just to be clear. Comcast which is a major ISP for the United States has data caps?

I will never understand why the United States insists on living about 30 years behind the rest of the planet.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Insane isnt it, my cousin got a roaming charge driving across his own country.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

Wait what, that's insane! I can roam over the entire EU (probably EEA too) without roaming charges.

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[-] xonigo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

I have a gigabit internet plan with Comcast , cost me $80 a month. And yes there is a 1.2tb data cap each month. Every 50gb that you go over, you are automatically charged an additional $10. Oh I'll just choose another ISP...nope Comcast is the only option in my town. Not unless I want 5G cell Internet or satellite which is not super reliable or fast.

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[-] exu@feditown.com 56 points 1 day ago

Many countries don't have data caps on broadband.

[-] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Wasn't even aware it was still a thing, apart from on mobile (where it somewhat makes sense-ish)

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[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

You are mixing up the different values.

"Meanwhile, scattered reports of **MS Flight Sim 2020'**s bandwidth consumption point toward a more conservative ~100 Mb/s in densely populated photogrammetry areas, such as major cities. Usage in lighter areas could dip as low as 10 Mb/s, though the official Microsoft bandwidth recommendation for that game was 50 Mb/s."

Flight Sim 2020 had a higher install size and lower bandwidth. Flight Sim 2024 has a lower install size and higher bandwidth requirement. Even if the sustained load isn't using the maximum bandwidth, it still means that 2024 will use a significant amount of bandwidth such that it may affect customers with data caps.

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[-] bigredcar@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

A lot of isps are rolling out gigabit and even faster internet. Finally having a killer app for it will increase demand for it and shame slower isps to upgrade their old coaxial and copper cables with fiber.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

ISPs are unshamable and a flight sim is a niche application.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They'll still cap you at 250 Gb a month.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

idk, I upload almost 1TB per day. never gotten notices or anything. fios.

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Who cares about shame when you have no competition? In your dreams.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think the thing to note here is that ISPs roll those things out fully aware that hardly anyone who pays for that will actually USE that amount of data. They don’t want a killer app for it, they just want you to think you need that much data, and then never actually use it. In fact there are some places where regardless of your bandwidth, you have a monthly data allotment. This game represents a shift into super high bandwidth usage for the general non-technical population. If everyone and their mom starts actually using all the bandwidth they pay for, can the ISP deal with that? If you don’t have a monthly data limit, do they start to roll those out to you and your area?

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[-] HorreC@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago

Cant wait for how many flight nerds are about to find out about their comcast data caps.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

So Comcast users can't have youtube tv?

[-] HorreC@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

The hard cap in my area is 300GB a month, you can only go over twice in a year and its only for 10GB and you pay 50$ each time. If you are over that limit they just shut it off.

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