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I’m torn. Both Galadriel and Sauron say the other is a threat to Middle-earth. One has to be wrong, so whom am I to trust? Should I trust the Dark Lord who attempted to topple the White City of Gondor, dominate all life, and attempt to stay in power for eternity? Or do I trust the Elf Queen representing the coalition of Men and Elves who defeated Sauron when he tried to enslave the Free Peoples… but could maybe do more meet-and-greets?

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 30 points 13 hours ago

Was Galadriel pledging strong endless support for a genocide? I don't remember that part of the books if I'm honest.

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 17 points 13 hours ago

Hmm, let me guess, you're voting for Grima Wormtongue?

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 26 points 13 hours ago

I'd vote for Frodo, since he's ignoring all of the ridiculous political bullshit and actually trying to do a revolutionary act by building a fellowship and working together with his friends to destroy the source of the evil rather than fighting over who is the best one to control the evil.

I swear it's like you people haven't even read the books!

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago

Ahh, yes, Frodo. The one who actually gave into the ring and was only saved by someone literally biting it and the attached finger off.

Also, brave call to say that Frodo exerted an ounce of agency. Frodo was a puppet of the existing power structure and elites who essentially got tricked into going without understanding what was at stake, repeatedly put the ring on despite Gandalf telling him not to, got stabbed and almost died, and then because no one could trust anyone else with it, was the default choice to keep going with a group he had no say in creating.

If you were going to pick someone, you should at least have gone with Samwise.

Talk about someone who hasn't read the books.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 12 hours ago

Ahh, yes

jagoff

That's such a tiresome and arrogant Reddit-standard opener for your reply that I'm doubting that "withsoul" part of your name.

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 4 points 13 hours ago

It's the only way to break the system!

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[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 30 points 13 hours ago

Genocide propaganda. Why do you support, or at least not have a problem with, the extermination of the Palestinian people?

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago

Hypothetically and only for the sake of argument, let's say Harris "supports genocide". We know Trump supports …let's call it "Genocide+". What does that leave? I believe most people think Harris will make getting a permanent ceasefire and supporting a two state solution central tenets of her administration. And Trump will do something insane that will threaten many more innocent lives across the entire region.

You can cast a vote for the imperfect candidate (which is every candidate ever), you can cast a vote for the candidate most likely to start World War III. Or you can cast a vote for ~~Grima Wormtongue~~, oops I mean Jill Stein, who is on the take from both the Russians and the GOP, and end up helping WWIII guy. Those are your options. It's not necessarily a fun choice, but it shouldn't be a hard one.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 19 points 12 hours ago

Is this a bit?

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 17 points 12 hours ago

Trump Derangement Syndrome lives in every liberal that can just say out loud with no reason besides 'orange man bad' that the unconditional and enthusiastic support for genocide that already exists would be worse under Trump.

And I honestly don't believe you're acting in good faith. I think you're a disgusting fucking piece of shit that's just latching your own personal cause (electing a nazi) to the cause célèbre.

[-] basmati@lemmus.org -2 points 13 hours ago

I voted PSL, enjoy literally being a member of the Nazi party.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 12 hours ago

As an anarchist, how the hell is collaborating with the election promoting revolution?

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[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 19 points 12 hours ago

Was worried that the actual Onion had posted Liberalism, but thankfully it's some knockoff

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

When in doubt go for chaos... NO DONT I AM KIDDING

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 10 points 11 hours ago

Not humoring this childish nonsense about a novel; scum like you won't even press Kamala at every moment to stop her support of genocide because you don't give a damn about the Palestinians; you gonna vote for her in the tens of millions? Then why aren't there tens of millions putting her on the spot about her support for Israel? You people don't give a damn and you're not conning anyone here.

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 27 points 14 hours ago

I know the article is a threadbare simile, but it more than misses the whole point of Galadriel's character in the books/movie. For even someone like Galadriel who meets this beyond-human ideal of beauty, purity and "goodness", the power of the One Ring to dominate life is so corrupting that it would simply turn her into a new Sauron. Which is why after failing to resist temptation, Galadriel leaves Middle Earth and goes into the West. If there's one point that is hammered in repeatedly throughout the Lord of the Rings, it's that such absolute power cannot be used for good, despite anyone's best intentions, and the only recourse is for it to be destroyed.

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

There's a much better candidate for the comparison: Saruman, the guy whose whole deal was resisting Sauron by adopting all of his means.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 10 points 14 hours ago

I mean it's not asking why should have the ring it's saying why should be trusted to rule

[-] somename@hexbear.net 10 points 12 hours ago

Imagine hyping up Kamala this much

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[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 14 points 13 hours ago

This post is a good reminder why I need to sort by Local and not All.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 6 points 12 hours ago

I guess sometimes the onion does miss

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 12 hours ago
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