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fifth-international Hd version chad-trotsky

posted mostly because i thought it was funny, the ML USA orgs map is propably big too but not as much i think

also im surprised how castroism is a big influence on some trot orgs, its probably the ones that are anti-embargo are also castro influenced Fidel-deke

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[-] FutureLandstacy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

SALT is quite relevant but doing it all pixelated is very funny

[-] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago
[-] aqwxcvbnji@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

They have a councilmember in Seattle. That makes them the most succesfull marxist organisation in the US at the moment. I'm not a trot so I don't like to admit that, but it's true.

[-] aaro@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

love how DSA is tucked away in an inconspicuous section of there

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

They are in fact on the list 5 times for 5 different DSA trot factions.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I too studied the periodic table of elements

[-] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

If this kind of info is available to us normies, the feds probably know literally every single person who has ever been in any org at all. Scary.

[-] tango@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

This is going to be on the test, isn't it?

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

also im surprised how castroism is a big influence on some trot orgs

Posadas was a trot and fairly influential in mid-century LatAm. Posadists played some role in the Cuban revolution, so there's a historic trot to Cuba connection even though Cuba was allied to the USSR.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

If contemporary neoliberalism is secular-Calvinist, this looks like leftist secular-Protestantism, further fracturing within fracturing and all. posting

[-] AHopeOnceMore@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The ML one is tied to this one too, lol.

Socialist Workers Party -> Workers World Party -> Party for Socialism and Liberation.

The US has a funny Trot-to-ML pipeline from trot party splits.

[-] hypercube@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

having a hard time choosing between the Tempest Collective or Love and Rage for the coolest name

[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

farquaad-point This is why there's no american left.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you actually read the chart, most of the splits re-merged. With the remaining parties being DSA, SA, and CPUSA (the original party). Most of the splits that do remain have become committees within one of the bigger parties.

With some of the older trot splinters just focusing on things like art and newspapers.

I also think that SA and DSA are federated and I know CPUSA does a lot of work with both depending on the size of the local. I see all the groups at rallies around me and they all know each other and are friendly.

Ah, forgot PSL, they're also pretty closely integrated with groups like CPUSA and DSA when it comes to actual action.

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

these orgs generally reform out of trotskyism thankfully

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, my time with the DSA in Asheville has a lot of splitting attempts trashed. We had a good contingent that was also SRA and the only thing that got us was one of the leadership being implicated in some sexual abuse.

The chapter still goes on though and is run my more teachers and service workers now as there help to organize both those groups or here and move away from the reading group status of the old guard.

Sadly I've been a passive member for a while now after moving away from Asheville, but they do good work out there

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