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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And the Veterans for Trump organization of course had this to say on the matter:

 

 

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 59 points 2 days ago

How the hell is he winning so much of the Black and Hispanic vote? Like... any percentage at all?

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A higher percent of the Hispanic support than any republican nominee in history (as high as 45%) with closest next being George W. Bush.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago

Do they just not know that he's trying to kill them?

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

Surely this leopard won't eat MY face!

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

...and as low as 29% - depending on which polls you look at. The important thing is to make it seem like a close race so people will keep looking at ads.

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[-] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

Hispanics have a very high population of religious voters and many of them don't believe in abortion. For many religious people, even if they disagree handily with everything else the Republican party does, they will not vote Democrat because of the abortion issue.

There was a pretty large research study and a bunch of podcasts on it.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He's not, he had higher polling with African Americans in the last two elections than actual voters, he had extremely low voting numbers with African Americans, slightly higher with men, but not by that much, it's really common in politics to have a lot of people doing shady bullshit to see if it will sway elections, also the population nation wide is low enough that getting a sample size that's actually representative is not likely, even some trusted unbiased polling was using the opinion of one single person to represent all polling numbers in a whole state and the poll was pretty old by that point as well, so with African Americans you see a lot of really strange lookin poll numbers, but believe me, Trump going after Haitian refugees with racist tropes about ''savage'' and voodoo bullshit made him quite vile to antiracists of all stripes, I don't think those numbers are going to pan out at all.

Now Hispanics, that's a whole different story, being Hispanic myself I can tell you, it's not a solid voting block. We aren't as good at consistently voting in our own interests. There's light skinned people who think they're white enough to be in the whites only club, racism isn't hard to find among Hispanics, many do hate African Americans and others, so the white identifying crowd can be pretty similar to racist whites in a lot of ways, you also have Hispanics that are very concerned with hyper mauculinity and want the strongest man, and only think in terms of displays vs substance, and there's deeply religious Hispanics who can get drawn in with the evangelical rhetoric. So your not going to see a big percentage on one vote or issue with Hispanics, it's always going to be a mixed bag even with Trump's promise too deport more Hispanics from the US regardless of legal status, or his call backs to ''operation wetback'' or this bullshit, you just won't see big sweeping numbers from Hispanics it will always be slip up.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 544 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is not someone killed in battle:

Donald Trump raged when he learned the funeral bill for Vanessa Guillén—the U.S. soldier who was sexually harassed and horrifically murdered by a male soldier at Fort Hood in 2020—cost $60,000, a bombshell report revealed Tuesday.

Somehow knowing the circumstances of her death makes Trump's awful remark even nastier. Especially since he is a rapist.

Guillén, a 20-year-old American of Mexican ancestry from Houston, was buried in her hometown on Aug. 15, 2020. Months later, in December, Trump reportedly asked his advisers in a meeting, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?"

When an aide responded “yes” with the bill’s total, Trump allegedly unraveled. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f---ing Mexican,” he said, according to people in the meeting who spoke to the Atlantic.

Trump says vile things every day but this has to be one of the vilest.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 170 points 3 days ago

I hate this man more than words can express

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 101 points 3 days ago

And yet somehow, not as much as I hate the people who will vote for him.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago

Trump would be nothing without his enablers. They definitely deserve your loathing first.

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[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 155 points 3 days ago

Damn, he was almost close to making a valid comment about how wildly overpriced funerals are today, then instead went full bore into super racism

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago

Because he starts with super racism and goes from there.

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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But he definitely doesn’t think the same way about the people voting for him…

[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 3 days ago

That's the main point I never understood about his voters. His political agenda and your political affiliation don't even matter. All you have to understand is that everything he does is for his own benefit. Nobody wants an egoist in charge in a smaller setting - why the fuck elect one as president?

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[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 96 points 3 days ago

He followed through with the sentiment too.

The magazine reported that Trump then turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and ordered him, “Don’t pay it!” That order was apparently heeded by Meadows, as the Atlantic reported that Trump never sent a dime to help cover funeral costs for the slain woman.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 68 points 3 days ago
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[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Back in the '80s Trump publicly offered to pay the funeral expenses of a child killed by a bear ... and then reneged, naturally.

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[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago

The fact that this election is close makes this all even worse.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 days ago

Trump was reportedly still irked by the bill later that same day, with him claiming that Guillén’s grieving family was trying to take advantage of his wealth.

“Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “F---ing people, trying to rip me off.”

So this is rather telling, him thinking that the "money of the US government" is "my money"

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

This is because he desperately is clinging to the ancient ideal (and I mean ANCIENT. Like early Middle Ages ancient) that everything in the kingdom is the direct and personal property of the king.

So in that sense, the billions of dollars allocated to the military every year is actually his money.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago

Trump reportedly complained later in the day that these “fucking people” are “trying to rip me off.”

He thinks it's his money.

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[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago

Just one more thing that should absolutely torpedo any political career, that won't hurt him at all. His MAGAt cultists probably think that was "speaking the truth" or some stupid shit like that. Anyone who would be bothered by his comments has abandoned him ages ago.

[-] cranakis@reddthat.com 181 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And the family he said it about continues to kiss his ass. What the fuck is wrong with people?

We are grateful for everything he has done and continues to do to support our troops.

Says the sister of the soldier who was sexually abused and slain at Fort Hood, TX.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago

What an absolute fucking moron, I hope her sister is haunting her

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

That’s what pissed me off the most when I read this. Fucking pathetic.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 42 points 3 days ago

Oligarchy 101.

Treat public expenses like it's coming out your own pocket.

Treat the public purse like it's your own personal bank account.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I love how Bonespurs is campaigning so hard for Kamala Harris. It's good to see him doing something useful for a change!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 107 points 3 days ago

I'm starting to think Donald Trump is not a very nice person.

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

Trump cultists: "He isn't racist."

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago
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Wtf are funerals that expensive?

[-] grahamja@reddthat.com 24 points 3 days ago

In the US, funeral homes try to get as much money out of you as possible because they know you are emotionally vulnerable. There are exposes on funeral homes having predatory services.

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[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They can be, sadly. It depends where you live, where you have someone buried, and what services and coffin and whatnot you get. But yeah, the funeral business in the US is pretty crazy greedy. $60k is definitely on the higher end. According to a quick Google, my state's average funeral cost is around $8k, with the total cost (including mortuary services, etc) around $20k.

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago

It should be noted that the article says it was attended by the mayor and city's police chief. I'm assuming quite a few more less notable people also came. I would also assume this increases the cost.

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[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

Like he'd pay any bill ever

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 62 points 3 days ago

Don is a nasty POS, fuck him and all his supporters.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Considering how he treated Ivana's grave I'm really not shocked that he'd be an asshole about someone he doesn't know at all.

[-] intohimo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago

Somehow, some way, this orange clown makes me angrier everyday, even when I thought I'd seen the worst of him.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 30 points 3 days ago

"No, 60k is to bury a DEAD Mexican. The ones fucking generally don't want to be buried"

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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

Fuckface 45 is a disgusting pile of burning excrement.

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