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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 125 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've been saying this for 30+ years. Piracy is by large NOT a group of people looking to avoid paying for a product.

Piracy is often the result of your product being either unavailable to purchase at a reasonable price, or difficult to comply with the law.

I saw an NFL schedule for my local team at a bar recently. Every week it's a different time, different network, some aren't even airing over OTA, it's on Amazon Prime......for 1 game. Nobody is going to pay $120 for a year for amazon prime, to watch 1 game for 3 hours.

That shit is what led to piracy.

Metalica loved to bitch and complain, about Napster giving away their songs. It's not THEIR fault per se, so I do see them as also the victims, but the whole industry was fucked back then.

You'd pay $20 for a CD of some band, and find out 16 songs, and you like 3 of them. $20 in 1999 would be like $35-$45 today.

Then you'd find out Napster exists, and you can download JUST those 3 songs. You were willing to pay a reasonable price for those 3 songs, but the record labels wouldn't take your money. Not unless you wanted to buy either the full album, or a singles disc which only had their radio releases that THEY picked.

Then after napster died, Apple says "hey, what if we charged $0.99 for 1 song, as picked by the user? A full album in this way would still be close to $20, but we don't have a physical good to ship and pay labor on."

And THATS when digital music really took off. Because they made a buttload that year. Record labels FINALLY realized people will pay if you offer a product, easily available at a reasonable price. Suddenly profits in the music industry which had been declining for a decade, were booming. Piracy was on the decline.

And yet the video industry never learned this lesson. Netflix came in, boom, all this money to be made from subscribers. It was cheap, it was all in one place, and it was easy.

Then over 10 years every channel has a video service.

And prices are increasing.

And account sharing is being cracked down on.

So it's no longer easy, it's no longer cheap. It's no longer....oh hey, piracy is on the rise.

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Plus that whole thing where record companies got caught price-fixing CDs. And the other thing where they got caught installing rootkits from CDs

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I forgot about that! Sony specifically did it.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Technically BMG, who Sony was invested in (and subsequently bought).

Sony wasn't actually directly involved, as BMG ran independently, or so they say. It's unclear whether Sony knew or not.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Everything you say here makes a ton of sense.

I can only imagine some dumbfuck executive seeing this and going "Oh my god, we need to be charging by the episode! Sales will BOOM!"

Careful what you wish for.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Bought Brooklyn 99 on DVD recently since Netflix thought it was great to only put the first 4 seasons up. My biggest regret is that I didn't look more to find a brick and mortar store to buy from. Best buy doesn't even carry DVDs anymore.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Apple already supports buying individual episodes on the iTunes Store.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 3 weeks ago

Not surprised. Apple is amongst the shystiest of shysters.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean....I know you prefaced this by saying they're a dumbfuck, but that decision would really be missing the forest through the trees.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that's pretty much my point.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Shocked is how you should respond if you see a man cut off his own foot and eat it.

Shocked is the wrong word for when someone watches television.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] needs_more_butter@eviltoast.org 31 points 3 weeks ago

The other fun one is when you can't watch a sporting event that you paid for because the only legal streaming service that has it crashed part way through, but there are working free alternatives floating around.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Doesn't it cost something ridiculous like $2000/yr to be able to watch every NFL game? It's crazy because it's nowhere near as entertaining as CFB anyway lol.

I thought $80/yr was a lot to see every F1 race but it also includes live telemetry, cockpit cams, and team radios you can bounce between during every event. As well as two different commentary streams, every past race, and loads of post race commentaries and docs. I can't imagine spending any more on it though.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What lol not even close. NFL+ is $100/yr and you get every game. Sure, they’re replays and not live games, but honestly that’s the best way to watch American football so you can skip over the absurd amount of commercials. Cuts the 3 hr broadcasts down to 2 hr. They also have condensed versions that they post a couple hours after the game ends which cuts out everything between whistles, so it’s just the actual plays. Cuts the 3 hr broadcast down to 45 min. If you’re a football mega nerd, they also have coach’s versions where it shows the 22-man camera angle of every play.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ahhh ok yeah that makes more sense then. I thought I saw something saying discount for YTTV for like $600 or something was like wtf. The 22 camera thing sounds like the F1TV feature which is pretty cool.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

nflbite.com

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Owners will punish these wagies... they hate it when their bitches causing them problem AND not making some mother fucking money.