Oh! So this actually might be caused by bad net code. I remember years back during horizon 4, or early on when 5 released, people would play online races with friends, and a good portion of the time, the ramming wasn't actually intentional. Both people would record the race and one friend would see the other randomly stop or go flying and the other person would see their friends' car send them off course.

The game just thinks the other cars are in different locations than they should be. On the other players' screen, it's possible they didn't even see you next to them. It can appear that you were behind them the whole time.

It's why I wish they would offer a ghost mode where you can't ram, but can just race each other. If they can't make car interaction accurate, then I don't think they should bother with that feature (or at least make modes where it's optional)

I feel like it is best, in racing games, if either:

1. Everyone agrees that racing dirty is okay, like in more combat racing type games.
2. The game has systems to discourage contact or intentionally ruining others' races. Some more serious games have safety rating and such.

Otherwise you get some who want to have a fair race and others who think that all racing must be dirty, and it isn't fun when these collide (literally).

Welcome to the real world.

Look, I come from fighting games and not racing games, so this actually looks OK to me. The goal is to win the race by hook or crook, and you are expected to use every means at your disposal to win. It's dirty play, but it isn't against the rules, and you should expect all of your serious opponents to ram you in this situation.

It's like snaking in Mario Kart DS. It's a weird counter-intuitive mechanic that makes you go faster by powersliding constantly, even on straightaways. If you're playing without snaking, you're not really playing Mario Kart DS.

As someone that's extensively played the entire burnout series; git gud scrub. You can avoid all ramming attempts by being a better driver.

I won't play forza online anymore, rammers just ruin the entire experience. I understand incidental collisions, but that intential shit just isn't fun. They really need to implement a system that can track intentional ramming and match those people with each other so they are stuck in a rammer hell, and the rest of us can just enjoy the game. Ideally, the system wouldn't be visible and account bound so it will follow you in the sequels. This way way the people who get joy out of ruining things for others are only ruining things for other assholes.

That is so fucking weak, holy shit.

Is this Forza Horizon 4 or 5?