I didn't even know Bedrock had a VR mode. I've tried the Vivecraft mod for Java and it worked very well, albeit required some settings changed to make the controls more natural
I tried both, Vivecraft (being a project driven by passion) is vastly superior!
Why are they removing support though?
Probably because VR gaming is basically dead. It never really took off and it's a waste of time and money for them to devote resources to it. Probably like 0.1% of users are in VR.
That being said, part of why it's dead is because no developers want to take chances on it, so it's a self fulfilling prophecy. Valve was the last one to gamble on it.
That's not even accurate.
If VR gaming is dead, then what does it say about Linux with about 5 times less users? Like, a low poly game about monkeys has a daily playerbase of a million people there. Mind you, Mincraft has 1 to 1.5 million. Not bad for a "dead" platform. Also, Valve isn't even the last one to enter the market.
I think what you're actually trying to say is that it's too niche, which it absolutely is.
It's math. The amount of money they're spending on supporting the VR platforms is less than the amount of money they make for the people on those platforms. They probably have to dedicate several multi-person teams to manage the clients.
Linux has some pretty good hedging going on with steam deck.
I don’t see how what they said was contradictory. VR gaming is indeed dead. And Linux gaming with 5 times less users is also even more dead.
There’s a reason why game devs completely ignore Linux as a platform.
- More than 57mil (est.) monthly VR users
- PS5 has 116mil monthly users
For how big PS5 is and how small VR is, VR sure has a lot of people playing.
Lemmy has userbase (not even monthly activity) of 0.46mil (acc. to fedidb). Is lemmy dead?
What constitutes for a dead platform to you?
Is Lemmy dead?
I mean. Yeah ? Can you imagine any large companies investing in this in any way? I sure can’t.
I think what you're forgetting is scale.
Lemmy is niche. VR is niche. Gaming is mainstream.
You can't call a niche dead just because there aren't that many people into it. It's a niche for a reason.
Linux is booming, even though it's "dead." Lemmy has never been this active in its entire existence. Why do investments from large companies matter?
What truly matters is growth. Negative growth is what kills a platform/industry/company/whatever else. VR is growing, Linux is growing, Lemmy is growing. It may not be fast, but they all have active userbases that support their development.
You cannot call a child "failure" just because it never achieved anything in life, can you? They are growing. They can get sick, they can recover. They can also regress due to that illness and die. Only then they're truly dead.
why do investments from large companies matter?
Because we are talking about a large company de investing from something.
It’s kinda the topic we are talking about.
Well, Mojang's Minecraft in VR is dead. But that's kinda far from VR gaming as a whole, don't you think?
One symptom does not share the entire story.
Not to mention that there is a better alternative for it anyway.
Still mods for java out there luckily. Sucks for PlayStation players though, that's how I first experienced VR.
And I think they had previously announced support for PSVR 2, but u guess that's not happening now.
This is why Java edition and mods reign supreme.
id love for the more optimized and less spaghetti-coded bedrock version wasnt so bad.
but if they are gonna pull that crap id rather be on java forever.
TBH it was pretty barebones, but I did enjoy seeing some of my worlds in stereoscopic 3D. It also scares me for the future of VR (minecraft is a REALLY popular game. If it is dropping VR does that mean adoption isn't going that well?).
Also, this is specifically regarding Bedrock minecraft. Java has never officially supported it, but there are mods that add the functionality.
VR doesn't belong everywhere. There are good games for it but it needs to be purpose built and planned for. Not just a port of an existing game.
Yeah but playing Minecraft in VR was pretty neat, even if it wasn't the greatest experience.
There is a game called cyubeVR on steam and PS2VR, built from the ground up for vr. It is a great fun game with a solo dev. Highly suggest checking it out, there are quite a few videos on it and it is highly modable. It is sad that the big cos are dropping support
I never play bedrock, because playing without mods is boring most of the time, (not to mention I actually like doing redstone) but did any bedrock players play in VR?
Obviously this doesn't affect Java, where we have a mod for that
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