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[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 46 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Personally I’m glad the sanctions have some bite. You can’t expect to just keep living your life as you wish when your country is obliterating its neighbors and disrupting stability worldwide.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey guys we're going to blow up the maternity hospital and shell the nuclear plant: I sleep

You can't work on your software project anymore: REAL SHIT

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 9 points 8 months ago

The author seems to complain a lot and not blame much on their shitty country.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same should go for Israel too... But you know, they buy lots of weapons from their sponsors.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You know there are massive differences between the war that Russia started and the war that Hamas started.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, the difference being that one is a war and the other is just plain old genocide.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago

Yup. I recall how the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs published new guidelines for digging mass graves in late 2021. One of many pieces of evidence pointing towards genocidal intent. Bucha at the latest should have made Putin's goals in Ukraine more than clear to anyone.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hamas didn't exist during the nakba.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

There is a difference between a war and a conflict. Hamas did not start this conflict, but they started this war.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

And how exactly is banning these contributors supposed to stop the invasion? These people have no control or culpability.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

When Russian citizens understand there are direct consequences to them, Russian citizens stop supporting Putin’s actions.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Putin couldn't care less about the support from some random programmers. Be realistic, what do you expect them to do? Take up arms? Protest and get imprisoned? Vote in the sham elections?

Targeting random civilians in hopes of political change is the strategy of terrorists.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago

lol, right, this is terrorism!

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So Putin is a democratically elected leader now? You people have been shouting that he's a dictator since your owners told you to hate Russians.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dictators need the support of their citizens as well. None of them have truly unlimited power.

Every single one of them has to keep people both afraid and happy enough to maintain control. This includes various domestic interest groups (from peasants to members of the military) as well as influential individuals (a small number of key cadres, media figures, intellectuals and generals), in addition to foreign powers. It's a constant and highly dangerous balancing act, because if there is one thing that is exceptionally rare among autocratic regimes, it's a peaceful transition of power. No "president for life" wants to share the fate of Muammar Gaddafi.

You people have been shouting that he’s a dictator

Yes, because he is one. Nobody in their right mind would deny this.

since your owners told you to hate Russians.

This is ridiculous. So people in the free West are slaves now? And no, we don't hate Russians, just Putin, his cronies, his soldiers who murder and rape their way through Ukraine - and his lap dogs who are busy regurgitating primitive "russophobia" propaganda talking points, either for free or in the vain hope that they don't get sent in the meat grinder.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 1 points 8 months ago

You clearly hate more than just Putin et al, given the subject of this story and how you slaves have reacted to it.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's supposed to put the LF in line with sanctions rather than at risk. They have no control over the invasion (aside from pushing a malicious patch that shuts down all Linux systems or something)

[–] koper@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So then you agree that there is no reason to be "glad" about this?

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this supposed to be a leading question? I'm not making the decisions, but there's no reason to be happy about losing contributors in any case.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Some people think if you’re not foaming at the mouth over this then you’re happy and supportive. The threads have been bizarre

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Bruh I live in the USA. The state has been murdering people and disrupting stability since its inception. I've never been fired from any job because of it.

[–] a1studmuffin@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What I don't understand about this whole situation: why does it matter where commits originate from if you're dealing with an open source project? Does the Linux kernel not peer review code? Can't security researchers from around the world comb over the source code for vulnerabilities/malware? Or is this all just political theatrics?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 30 points 8 months ago

They’re not allowed to be collaborating with people who work for certain Russian companies. It’s not a question of security, it’s a question of US law requiring US entities to punish through non-cooperation certain companies that are assisting in the war effort or whatever.

It might or might not be fair, but it isn’t up to the kernel developers, it’s a legal requirement for them.

[–] 0xb@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Not about code security (even thought that is certainly important by itself). Sanctions are about political and economical isolation, is not that you don't trust their companies, is that you want to unplug them as a punishment.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 8 months ago

If 10 people are sitting at a table…