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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 1 minute ago

How you fuckers doing, eh?

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Having exported myself from the deep South to Yankee land, "Y'all have a good one!" never fails to brighten the day of someone working a cash register.

In general, folks up here really like southern politeness. They think sugar wouldn't melt in my mouth. I get stopped in stores to talk all the time. Pretty frequently, they just give me a discount. I thought Yankees were supposed to be rude, but they're actually really nice in public.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago
[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

"Y'all" has wider reach than this map suggests, particularly in black and queer communities.

[–] 0_0j@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Youse LOL, almost lost it when I heard it one time

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Where's my fellow "yo'd'll"s at

[–] halfeatenpotato@lonestarlemmy.mooo.com 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 1 points 45 minutes ago

Oh....you know 😏

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 hours ago
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 26 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

People where I am from call everyone "you guys" - men, women, trans, doesn't matter, everyone is just "you guys" even when it's a woman addressing a group of women.

The literal meaning isn't gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

As for "y'all" or "you all", I don't see how it could possibly be interpreted as offensive to any gender.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

"You People" is the one to be avoided

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

"howdy fuckers" is the opposite as it sounds bad on paper but in practice it goes over well (except with middle aged moms)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 hours ago

"G'day cunts" goes over either extremely well or extremely poorly, with no in-between

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[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm from "you guys" but I've lived in "y'all" and now I'm forever team "y'all," regardless of where I'm living.

It's the best export from the south, except maybe Texas brisket and pecan pie.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 hours ago

...y'all roughly correlates with coke, although there are some deep pockets of soda-water in the back country...

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 26 points 19 hours ago

I mean, neither "you" nor "all" is a gendered term in any way

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 64 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (8 children)

"y'all" fills a legitimately useful gap the English language has. Other languages have a word like this.

Edit: also something cool I just found out, some languages have a way to disinguish "we" (you and I), and "we" (me and the rest of us, not you). It's called clusivity and is missing from European languages. Many indigenous languages of the Americas and Oceania have this, as well as Vietnamese and northern dialects of Mandarin.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

English used to be like other European languages too. We had thou/thee for singular, and you/ye for plural, and for respectful singular. Eventually, people began using it as respectful singular for everyone, and so it just became singular and plural, eclipsing thou/thee. Around this time, the you/ye accusative/nominative distinction was also lost, so now we just have you.

If you're curious, the you/ye distinction worked like this: "you" was used for the subject (the doer) of the sentence, and "ye" was used for the object (the done to). you/ye are analogous to I/me.

"You come with me." (plural you)

"I come with ye." (plural ye)

As a result of the loss of thou, we also lost the conjugation of verbs related to it, like "art" instead of "are", and "-st" or "-est" for other verbs ("goest", "thinkst", etc). It used to be that "are" was only for plural pronouns, but now both "you" and "they" can be singular.

And if you're curious about what happened to "-eth", evidence suggests this was for a long time a typographic feature, and it was pronounced "-s" as it is today. It was used exactly like "-s". "He thinketh" would have been pronounced "he thinks".

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Not a gap in every dialect! "Ye" is another plural second person used in Ireland

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[–] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Y'all is the opposite of offensive for trans people. I lived in the south for a while, and I now use y'all specifically to be inclusive. I wouldn't say "you guys" is offensive to trans women, but I would say for me and likely other trans women it briefly brings to mind being misgendered in the past, so I would call it a small kindness to ube as gender neutral as possible.

[–] myusernameis@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, I specifically use y'all and recommend it to people (like my parents) to replace gendered phrases, and I'm not from the y'all zone.

Still up for debate, "dude" and "hun/hon".

*I'm a trans woman also

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago

As a cis male, I've exclusively been called "Hun / Hon" by waitresses and gay men.

I've not been offended by any of them.

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[–] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maine I think loops back around to y’all territory…

[–] timeeeee@midwest.social 1 points 8 hours ago

As someone that grew up in y'all territory in Kansas, it's wildly easy to connect to people from Maine!

[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 80 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I would have thought that β€œy’all” is even more so gender neutral and therefore less offensive/more accepted. It’s a contraction of β€œyou all” right?

[–] TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, I’m in the β€œyou guys” zone and I say y’all, it’s always better received.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago (9 children)
[–] So_zetta_slowpoke@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Yinz goin aht n abaht in dahntahn Picksburgh to watch da Stillers game?

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yall is the genderless southern hospitality greeting.

No bullshit no hate. Only yall

[–] stardom8048@lemmy.world 46 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I've used y'all intentionally as a gender neutral term for years in the south.

Lately I've even seen "y'all means all" used as a pride slogan in the south.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago

Awesome! Thanks comrade.

[–] ninjaturtle@lemmy.today 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not from the south and use "y'all" all the time. Find it very useful for filling in a gap that English has and slightly faster than saying "you all". Its gender neutral in my opinion.

Never once thought of it as offensive.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Y'all reminds me of the bible belt. I'm not transgender but I am queer and now and then it makes me uncomfortable.

[–] Alice@beehaw.org 4 points 13 hours ago

Queer people who live in the bible belt still say "y'all". It literally means "you all".

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[–] dumples@midwest.social 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

We need a better second person plural in English. Y'all works but its a big language gap

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago

Hey...

Folks

Friends

Comrades

Everyone

People

Pals

You motley crew

Weirdos

Siblings

Fuckers

..how you doing, wanna go to the movies?

(this is by no means exhaustive list, the point is there are plenty of existing and perfectly acceptable alternatives, pick one, or more, and get comfortable with it)

[–] crazybrain@lemmy.spacestation14.com 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard people say "yous" before.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 8 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

People who don't even live in the USA saying "y'all" is pure pain

[–] weker01@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

Why? I am not living in the us but it's a useful phrase.

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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 48 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I’m from Australia and I’ve started calling all groups of people yall because it’s gender neutral… very unaustralian term, and I love so much the irony of iconic southern terms being used to support trans activism

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[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 6 points 18 hours ago

Trust me there are many more areas that say y'all

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