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Summary

Elon Musk, having endorsed and campaigned for Donald Trump, is now acting as a “shadow president,” advising on policies and personnel, and joining Trump on calls with world leaders.

This unprecedented relationship between the world’s richest man and the leader of the free world raises concerns about the influence of wealth on government.

While both Trump and Musk have incentives to continue their partnership, their volatile personalities and differing expertise may lead to a breakup in the future.

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Only until Trump throws him under the bus the first second it's convenient to do so.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nay, when Apartheid ended he saw no ground for his business(es) in South Africa. So he moved to America. More people there to work for nothing but his wealth and their 'American Dream'!

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What? Musk moved to Canada in 1989 when he was 18 to avoid national service.

Apartheid didn't end until a couple of year after that.

He's a massive bellend, and a huge leech on society with all of his government subsidised businesses, but thats not the same as making up reasons for his move.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ask his (ex-)employees. They didn't get all the money (yet) for their work. ?!!?!?

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

What are you talking about?

These are his businesses in South Africa that he closed when he was 18 and moved to Canada before Apartheid ended?

[–] vala@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

A little regulatory capture never hurt anyone...right?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

conservatives like this they consider it good

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 139 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is the most mask-off corporatist government we've ever seen, and they haven't even been sworn in yet.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

Why hide what is clearly quite popular?

Corporate media has the public totally sold on oligopoly. Elon will run our country into the ground and the Talking Heads on his payroll will tell the whole country how hard they need to clap.

And if you won't, we all know the cops will.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you pussyfoot consequences.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 12 hours ago

Just wait on the Mueller report bro. Trust me bro the wheels of justice take time.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 94 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

"leader of the free world"

Coming from someone outside the USA: lulz, you guys don't know shit about freedom

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago

Right? Leader of the prison capital of the world

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago

The Land of the Free, that's why our slaves are so happy here! /s

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

An illegal immigrant in the White House? Consistency was never a strong point of the GOP.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago

Every accusation, no matter how absurd is a confession. Now the White House is probably gonna smell like hummus, because that's something they said would happen under Kamela (no seriously)

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

why would he be considered illegal

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 6 points 9 hours ago

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/27/elon-musk-immigration/

“We don’t want our founder being deported,” said Derek Proudian, the Zip2 board member, who later became chief executive.

Literally the people working with him were afraid of his lack of visa and worked to get him one.

In a 2005 email obtained by The Post, Musk wrote that he had applied to a Stanford University graduate program, which he did not end up attending, so he could stay in the country.

He claims that he had a J-1, but unfortunately

“There are work options during studies, while engaged in a full course of study, and also after the completion of studies,” said Adam Cohen, author of “The Academic Immigration Handbook” and an attorney who specializes in employment visas. “But dropping out of school does not allow for work authorization. So there is a quite a gap there.”

He spent his time trying to get loopholes to remain, and used them incorrectly. He was an illegal.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

Because he admitted to illegally staying here to start his business after running out his student visa? And that he knew this was entirely illegal the entire time?

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 93 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] lando55@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Oh he's gonna hate that. I'm in.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 14 hours ago

Bonus: the acronym is pronounced 'phlem'.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Differing expertise?" They're both experts at destroying profitable businesses, and..? Narcissism? Hatred?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago

I don't think there's a better case of "failing upwards" than Chump and Musky Husky

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Musk hasn’t made a reality show yet, and Trump hasn’t become rich, despite multiple attempts. Maybe that’s the expertise they’re talking about?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Trump hasn’t become rich

For a not-rich guy, he sure does seem to live the high life.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He’s run a good grift living on other people’s money.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

If you live like a billionaire and you grift like a billionaire and you have borrowing capacity like a billionaire...

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US presidency is no longer considered the leader of the free world... Not since 2016

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

2016?! My brother in christ, the corporate takeover of American government was finalized with Reagan back in the 80s.

We may be entering a new phase of Fucking Around with fascism, but most of these modern problems are just us Finding Out how a corporatocracy functions.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

Remember when every state except for fucking Minnesota voted for him?

No really, that happened

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have to age my self and say that I am a year younger than the end of the Regan precidency...

But I can distinctly remember people in the 90s gushing over wanting to have green cards, and getting hand made dolls and dresses from America.

And if I reflect on recent history, Nixon probably did more than Regan did to turn the helm of the ship strictly towards all the icebergs

I really like your comment, but I think Trump did what the other bafoons couldn't. Get normal people not interested in politics to understand this point. And thus both our comments have merit

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Reagen deregulation our public airwaves and got rid of the rules about how many tv snd radio stations that a single entity could own. This directly led to media corps like Sinclair buying up most stations in many markets and forcing their ness to carry their propaganda.

We need a new Fairness Doctrine for the digital age. That was specifically a guard abaoponst this shit, and Reagan did away with thst too. In fact, Reagan imple,ended 2/3 of the Heritage Foundation's policy recommendations in Project 1981.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Thanks, I hadn't read up anything about Regan before, to me he was just the joke unbelievable actor turned president that made it harder for Doc Brown to believe Marth McFly had traveled back in time.

(Note: I'm not American)

Was project 81 similar to project 25? This heritage foundation sounds like a pedofile ring

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The constant talk of Musk's power in the new administration must irritate the fuck out of Trump. How terrible.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wait wait wait... You might be on to something.

If we can just get the media to jerk off Musk and make Trump feel small and inconsequential...

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

That would work so well

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ya know itd be a real fucken shame if this Saxon African bastard came down with a case of the dead.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Keep having thoughts like that and you'll be first in line for neuralink

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

"No one’s even bothering to try to kill Elmo."

[–] Dry_Monk@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

This unprecedented relationship between the world’s richest man and the leader of the free world raises concerns about the influence of wealth on government.

Raises?! Where have y'all been?

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago

"Leader of the free world" 🤡

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

This unprecedented relationship between the world’s richest man and the leader of the free world raises concerns about the influence of wealth on government.

The only change is that Liberals are apparently becoming aware of the power dynamic that has always existed — that democracy cannot exist with massive wealthy inequality and money equal to speech. I'm also positive that if Trump/MAGA fails to implement fascism (this time around), Liberals will believe the current system works, and completely ignore the reality that their system was almost destroyed by a small number of wealthy sociopaths.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah it's a bullshit take. There's always been a bunch of money up every presidents ass. It's just public. Very very public now.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

Reminds me of when I was a kid, my mom always said she still supported Clinton because "All he did was what every other man in power did, he just got caught."

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

You'd think they'd get the memo after several decades of "corporations get most of what they want, without objection" while "the people can't even get basic healthcare or a minimum wage comparable to poorer countries", yet here we are... Fascism is knocking down the door, financed by the wealthiest capitalism can muster, and they still have their heads firmly planted in the dirt, blaming the left for not voting, without evidence ... when the millions of people who didn't vote may very well be just as oblivious as Trump voters, don't know how the government works, don't know the danger they're in, and don't pay enough attention to care 99% of the time.

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