So can we officially put Teslas down as worse than the Pinto, cause im pretty sure theyve killed more folks than the Pinto and its magic gas tank.
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I will never, ever understand how obscenely expensive, poorly made cars sold by a fascist got so damned popular.
Best EV before the fascist made it evident that's what he is. Still best supercharging network available.
They have never not been poorly made.
Somewhat tangential fact we should not forget: Musk didn't found Tesla. He bought his way in but acts like he founded it.
They were the only reasonable EV option for several years. They still have the best available charging network if any EV.
I'm not selling a car that is paid off bc the owner of the company stopped hiding that he's obvious trash.
How about because it's safety features lack basic things that can save lives?
Tesla car doors have manual releases in the front doors but not in the rear doors. Or rather, there are manual releases in the rear doors but they are hidden under a hatch under the rubber matting in the door bins so effectively nobody is going to find them in an emergency. So if your car is on fire and you're injured or panicking & you're unaware about the manual release then you're going to die. Now to be fair, the front manual release in the Tesla model 3/Y is fairly discoverable (it's a handle above the electric windows) but it's not so obvious in older models. The Cybertruck has similar manual releases as the 3/Y but with toughened glass I wonder how long before we see someone drown or burn to death and bystanders were unable to rescue them.
Aren't the emergency release in some models behind the speaker grills? And others not present unless you have a higher tier package? (Talking about rear doors)
I hadn't checked all models but I knew that in the model Y there is a rubber mat in the door bin, that you remove, and under that is a hatch and under that is something you can pull. I had a look at the model X manual and it does seem to be under a panel by the speaker. So either way it is basically impossible for rear occupants (or front occupants who retreat to the back) to open those doors in an emergency.
The simple answer would be to put manual releases front, back and on the hatch. I assume that when a Tesla crashes it isolates the power, so it would also be necessary for things like door locks to automatically disengage, or be disengaged by the manual release otherwise that's no good either.
I mean, why not have a pre drive safety checklist for every drive in the backseat of a Tesla.
Sadly it would seem their built form over function - handles in plain sight to open the doors in case of an emergency seem to be a no brainer; but I'm not any sort of safety engineer.
in 20 years nobody will be buying a tesla because theyll have killed off their repeat buyers
I think they will end up just running charging stations eventually and not selling cars
When Elon’s DOGE kills the economy, I don’t know who he thinks will be able to buy his shit. Maybe he can sell in Europe.
Nope, here a lot of people are wising up too. And he is constantly fighting with unions. His company will be oblitherated by the Chinese EV companies.
And Cybertrucks won't pass certification here.
Too bad the US has actively banned Chinese EVs from being imported to focus or their own behind the times shit models.
I don't actively research EVs yet as I'm not in the market, but that's what I've read whenever I get a little interest in them. I'm not keen on investing until there are more charging places in my area before getting serious on the switch.
That's fair. I'm from a small country with a very high charge station density.. so for anything local it's a no brainer. Plus I have a driveway to change on.
That's how a "free market" is actually supposed to work.
We DO NOT have a free market, nor do we have the regulations required to keep the economy on a sustainable growth track. Which is why we reliably implode. We took the worst of both economic systems and gave a few oligarchs that control conglomerate corporations free reign to enrich themselves through crisis capitalism.
No we don't have a free market and we should not want one. A market completely devoid of regulations ignores reality.
He won’t care, it’s all a game to him. He has already moved on from Tesla. I’d be surprised if a new model came out at this point.
Perhaps people who truly believe they are in a simulation shouldn’t be allowed to play the game.
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Open the car doors, HAL.
"I'm sorry, Dave. You are not subscribed to Twitter Blue."
"HAL! I need you to understand, Twitter is X now! Please, unlock the damn door!"
As a European i wonder how lack of mechanical opening could pass safety norms.
They do their own safety checks.
there is, it'w just not very obvious apparently. Gotta read the manual to know it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ETBQdho90xU
https://youtube.com/shorts/XTfg7VQZ8_4
The last one is: remove the liner in the cargo compartment in the door, pop a flap on the bottom and pull the little tab on the cable that comes out. Even of your know, in a full panic it's going to be hard.
Use the metal part of the seat belt to smash the window is going to be easier in panic mode.
That last video is clearly someone at Tesla being maliciously compliant with the safety rules to check off a box and pass inspection. Whoever designed that does not actually care about safety.
The windows are laminated I believe, so they won't shatter. It's unfortunately quite common in many modern vehicles now. It used to be just the front windshield.
… with the Model Y in particular, not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors, as Tesla warns in the car's manual. It's unclear if the Model Y involved in the crash was equipped with the emergency feature.
not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors
That sounds... Well, fucking stupid.
But it saves money - and that's certainly more important for Musk than a well-produced vehicle
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In the 80s we had this little crank. Car didn't need to be on. Crank wasn't electric. Crank was kid-powered. Your dad just yelled at you. "HEY!!!! ROLL THE WINDOW DOWN BACK THERE!!!! YA LITTLE SHIT!!!"
And you knew it was serious, because cars back then didn't have A.C unless you were rich. So it was 90 degrees and the inside of the car was 110. Because YOU said we should put the reflective cover in the winshield, so it wouldn't get so hot in the car, but nooooooooo, dad said you'd only be a minute in the store. Then you come back out 45 minutes later. Which as you know, in kid time is several weeks. So now it's hot in the car. And the seat vynal is burning your legs, because you wore shorts.
And so you ask if you can just open the car doors for a while before you get in, but noooooooo we got places to be.
And so now you're getting yelled at, to crank both windows down because SOMEONE is being an asshole.
But at least you're not burning in a vehicle with no way out!
Vinyl
I knew there was a Y in there somewhere. Just every way I tried spelling it looked wrong.
We would also have accepted "polychloroethene"
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Before someone talks about the windows to justify the electronic door release, cars have had frameless doors for decades at this point, Tesla didn't invent anything, it's possible to have the window go down a bit with a mechanical handle and a switch that gets activated by it.
Or just use a gasket like subaru's did/do. I had frameless doors in ~2000 with no electronics required.
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Would a car window breaker / striker tool work on a tesla?
Ok just checked.. looks like the only window that isn't laminated is the driver side rear window which is a dumb design as far as safety design regardless of frame
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