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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 46 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Somehow I think they would have found another reason if we hadn't authorized deeper strikes. This was literally one of their prototypes, they are just now starting production. It's not something they held back, graciously waiting to use it because the Ukrainians were so polite in their war fighting.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's quite useless for attacking Ukraine too.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

I wouldn't say useless. anything they can use to blow up strategic targets is going to help them. It's just a hilariously inefficient use of the new missile.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If test results are expected to be partially falsified by corrupt executors - then relying on your actual enemy to deliver those results makes some sense.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah. No doubt. That's not what I'm saying. Putin is claiming this is a measured retaliation and not a test they would have conducted no matter what. Which is hilarious.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Yes, but he also is very capable of appearing miserable where he actually isn't. That should be considered. Homeless dogs are not very formidable enemies, but they can kill you if you turn your back on them. House pests are not, but it's sometimes a tremendous effort to get rid of them.

[–] XOXOX@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I don't think Trump would even retaliate if Putin hit the continental U.S. with a missile strike.

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You must not remember 9/11 or the events that followed. Any attack on American soil is open season on tearing up American rights and freedoms. We are still getting buttfucked by the Patriot act and it's been 24 years since it was signed. You really think Trump is going to ignore all his fellow ~~potheads~~ hothead and turn the other cheek to infallible power?

Edit: lol autocorrected hothead to pothead🤷‍♂️

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You must not remember 9/11 or the events that followed.

He does, that's why he said that.

If Russians were to hit the US, Trump would probably retaliate by hitting North Korea.

Exactly like Bush - he never hit Saudis, did he?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's because Saudi Arabia is an ally. The handful of Saudi Arabian born people that conducted the attack were enemies of Saudi Arabia as well. Osama Bin Laden would have happily shot the entire Saudi royal family.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

I am pretty sure Trump considers Putin "an ally"

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Worth bearing in mind that we never actually retaliated against the power most closely tied to the attackers.
Most of the people involved were Saudi and they may have had Saudi assistance. Instead we invaded Afghanistan where he was for a period of time, and Iraq who had nothing to do with anything.

So Russia attacking the US could plausibly result in us suspending habeus corpus, abolishing the FDA and spending a decade embroiled in a land war in Azerbaijan.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well, not just American rights and freedoms. You know, all those US actions and UN votes and vetoes that seem to have only one thing in common - that people in the Middle-East must suffer. It's as if the American deep state, if such a thing exists, were still punishing them for daring to bring some of the pain to US as feedback.

You know, when the white master erases a couple of cities or does a genocide or two, they were trying for your good, it just went wrong, no hard feelings. And when you respond - you dare, you should be punished.

OK, I'm looping those feelings too much.

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

Yeah I apologize but I'm not even really sure what your context or message is with this comment. I don't even know what or who you are calling the white master cuz I assumed Trump but you go on to reference like the only crime he hasn't committed by saying "do a genocide?" I dont even know what fuckin cities you mean by saying "got erased."

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

“It’s okay he was just trying to nuke a hurricane and missed”

[–] suzune@ani.social 8 points 1 day ago

While he surrounds himself with people in finance and money, the US may be incapable of reacting adequately in the future.

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 day ago

You mean not even if said missle hit mar-a-lago.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My tinfoil theory is that Trump and Putin are going to secretly coordinate a direct attack on a Democrat city with a WMD. Trump will then say some BS about not wanting to escalate the war with a shit eating smile

[–] BoobaAwooga@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

More likely would be trump doing exactly what Putin did to secure power. Plant a dirty bomb on your own people and blame someone to start a war. That someone would be democrats which would justify the “enemy within” rhetoric. He wouldn’t be able to do this right away because the “enemy” are illegal immigrants right now so after that has been going in say 3-4 years I’d reckon we’ll see a bomb or two.

I feel like this would be perfect reason for him and the rest of the Republican Party to justify getting rid of term limits and then scrapping the next election. If trump dies before the next election then they would just use it to scrap the next election

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Trump to the public: "Oh no! Ukraine set of a bomb in San Francisco/LA/NYC! See people? Putin and Kim Jong Un were the good guys all along!"

Trump later on a private call: "Did I do good, Daddy Vlad?"

[–] BoobaAwooga@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nah they’ve already spread that lie a shit ton already there’s no need to hammer it more. They also have spread it so much they have ample reason (according to them) to pull out of NATO. Now their agenda is making sure democrats can’t gain power ever again

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Well that would be a quick way to get a million Americans to rip him out of the White House while the Police and Military go look at very interesting things anywhere but D.C. I don't doubt he could be that stupid, but I do doubt the government would just sit back and allow it. Between NORAD and FBI Counter Terror there would be alarms ringing. And if they succeeded we'd know exactly what happened.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I'd hope that would be horrific and plain enough to be the "come to Jesus" moment that would start a widespread coup against him. Or at the very least cause one (1) USSS agent to pull their SIG and put one in his head for the team.

But hope hasn't gotten us very far recently...

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

May one of the rockets find putin's asshole tonight. Hopefully it waits a good minute before triggering.

[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

As the late George Carlin would say...."he won't know if he's coming or going!" 😂

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's an article filled with quotes from Pooty-poot, Peskov, and Órban, all of whom I dislike intensely.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

And their comments are surely all in good faith.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

Would be weirder if they didn't

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