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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

That's because he doesn't understand how economies work. This is the guy that bankrupted a casino.

[–] chuck@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

If the orange idiot goes through with it I hope the Canadian Government rolls out the list of tarrifs they used last time targeting states that supported this.

I'd also love to see the following on the list of retaliation tactics

Time to invalidate any and all us owned drug patents in Canada, and encourage generic companies to go hog wild

While we are at it reduce maximum damages from IP infringement claims from media agencies to a nominal 20-100 $ fee or lower in response

Regulations on foreign house ownership would be a popular thing to play with just not sure how. But could be funny to see any trump owned or trump family adjacent properties taxed heavily and foreclosed/ eminent domained

The government should also put in place road blocks to refuse to tell the IRS any banking details of any Canadian accounts and tell them to pound sand or take years individually replying manually to any requests to see any US citizen accounts in Canada. Why bother helping them collect taxes.

Also would love to see trump refused entry at the border for the lulz

Anyway hopefully smarter people have appropriate counter measures for this. Tit for tat sucks but hopefully embarrassing/ appropriate retaliatory responses.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

As an American I approve of these right now, you shouldn't even wait.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

These are all way better than any tariffs we could respond with.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

I like your anti-IP ideas. πŸ₯²

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Eh spare the IRS, its one of the most functional and least corrupt remaining bits of the US government and Trumps administration already tried to kill it last time.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can't wait for headlines to read: "Cost of living in the US goes up 200% under Trump... administration blames Obama." /s

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Except they'll just completely leave the "under trump" part out and directly blame Biden.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Only if corporate isn't making money from the new regime. Otherwise it'll be just vibes of cost of living πŸ”Ί200%.

[–] TheDefiant604@canada.masto.host 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@RandAlThor

While I am kind of looking forward to the πŸ’©show in Alberta over this, I just read that the USMCA forbids tarrifs on member countries. So, thanks to Drumpf, he legally cannot impose tarrifs on Canada or Mexico.

[–] CalPal@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

The guy has 34 felony counts on him, as is. What's one more legal violation, at this point?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But can he illegally impose them?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe. Will he actually do anything he's talked about? Unlikely.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Alberta loves MAGA Trump. I don't think Trump loves them back.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 days ago

β€œAlberta? Who is she? I bet she is an extremely unattractive woman, I refuse to say that because I always insist on being politically correct." -Trump probably

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The environmentalist in me is rather happy to hear this. Frankly, 25% is too low. Trump may be crazy, but if his trade war(s) mean higher prices on fuel for the biggest driver of climate change on the planet, I'll take it

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

This will make oil in the USA even more expensive, making alternate yet energy more attractive, and hopefully push us over peak oil. Assuming the USA has a domestic wind/solar industry...

[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I think he’s just going to go to Russia for the fuel.

[–] tracker@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I can hardly wait to see how Danielle Smith will blame the tariff on Trudeau…

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, I take what brief moments of hope I can get these days... knowing that Danielle Smith will be crying herself to sleep tonight gives me the hope I need.

So if we seal off the BC transmountain pipeline and refuse oil trains service through Quebec could we kill our fucking fossil fuel industry and force green alternatives?

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What green alternatives can we force short term? We will need to rely on gas peaker plants still. If we build alot of nuclear they sure, but I don't know how feasible wind or solar is for us here in Canada for large replacements for our grid to convert consumers over to full electric.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

On Arrakis we had desert power but here, in Canada, we must use hydropower.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

The beaver who can destroy the flow of the water is the one who truly controls it.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You know, in this context it's a bit refreshing to see Doug Ford's reaction to this. Proactively whining at Trump instead of shitting on Trudeau. I'm a bit surprised by his take.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Trump has said Canada and Mexico need to stop drugs and illegal immigrants from crossing into the US to prevent the tariffs. Border security will be pretty easy for her to blame on Trudeau.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Who’s going to print the Trump did this bowser stickers?

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So Putin's plan is to wreck the Wests economy

[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I’m probably wrong, but I’ve been speculating if the plan is:

  1. US imposes tariffs on its most valuable trading partners
  2. War in Ukraine β€œends”; US stops sending weapons; Ukraine goes to Russia; US possibly threatens to pull out of NATO to accomplish this
  3. Tariffs stay in place for traditional US allies; US helps Russia rebuild economically by becoming its new best good trading buddy, tariff free of course.
[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Crab-bucket economics to go with crab-bucket foreign policy

Post-Soviet Russia is such a fuck-up of a nation-state that they only way they can look good is by dragging everyone else down to their level.

[–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

On the bright side, 99% of Canadians will be immediately priced out of driving a ICE car, so at least we won't have to worry about that anymore

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, that kinda fucks over most of us who are just getting by. If someone can't afford to buy gas how would they be able to afford an EV? We need the prices to drop to a level everyone wants to buy an EV, not make every option cripplingly expensive.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It also sucks for people who don't want to buy a rolling surveillance machine.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

As much as I like electric I'd rather take an old car I can fix myself and get parts for that has a radio. No fucking way am I driving a data mining machine. I also plan to bike alot when I loose weight to ride so that won't be much of a problem.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Riding a bike is a great way to lose weight, so no time like the present!

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

sadly iv'e yet to find a bike that can handle my weight without the tires bottoming out, i also need to work on my cardio as i am getting quite out of breath easily from any heavy exertion. Ive been to the cardiologist and he said my heart is fine other than possible bicuspid aortic valve so im not sure what is causing it other than being lazy for too long.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What about those fat wheel bikes? They're more comfortable too. Not great for commuting, but fun to ride around.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Yeah that's the only thing i haven't tried yet, but they are quite pricey. Ill have to see if i can save up for something like that.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

There are electric conversion kits for certain cars.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is that? We would be able to import the US parts needed to build cars domestically as we do today. The tariffs would affect domestic production going back to the States. Even if Canadian autos go belly up because they can't export to the States, we'd still be able to import US-made vehicles. What am I missing?

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Pretty much every car built anywhere in North America has parts from at least 2 of the 3 countries, not to mention China. Sometimes parts end up going across the border multiple times before they end up as a fully assembled car.