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[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 54 minutes ago

trade wars!

[–] ahriboy@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 hours ago

Venezuela would back the Mexican plan.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Are we just actually going to end up with the Ghost in the Shell timeline, where the US just completely declares war on Mexico and hires a fuckton of PMCs for it?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 hours ago

getting closer to it every day it seems

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 32 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Critical support for comrade Trump in his struggle against the imperialist NAFTA project!

😂

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I have said this once I will say it agian, after Cuba, Mexico is the best positioned in Latin America to resist the United States

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

why?

Do you mean geographically or geopolitically/economically

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

Like 10 States belong to Mexico and there is a big Mexican population there, also the border.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 8 points 6 hours ago

Perhaps also culturally within its identity- and the fact half of the US is essentially just stolen Mexico, and their proximity to and close interactions with the YanKKKee devil. These combined with the direct proximity (border) and sheer size means what problems the US stirs up in Mexico will find their way back home (IMO).

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

we've seen what lengths americans would go through to enable a clueless entitled white man to win over an intelligent and accomplished minority woman; shienbaum's personality is going to clash badly with trumps and i hope that there are enough intermediaries between them to stop the worst of it from happening.

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

to win over an intelligent and accomplished minority woman

That is one of the most generous descriptions I have ever heard of her, unless you mean accomplished in war crimes. People going to bat for either side of the US Party are missing the point.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

What evidence exists for sheinbaum's war crimes?

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

we’ve seen what lengths americans would go through to enable a clueless entitled white man to win over an intelligent and accomplished minority woman

As USians did not elect Trump (presumably the clueless entitled white man) over Sheinbaum, the reasonable assumption here is that the "intelligent and accomplished minority woman" you were referencing was Harris, no? Sheinbaum wasn't running against an entitled white man.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

no

sheinbaum is a minority in mexico and well is accomplished & intelligent. i was using trump's experience with kamala to draw a parallel to how i believe both sheinbaum & trump will work with each other; anything that sheinbaum rightfully sticks to is automatically going to be a losing issue with her and it will cost her political legacy in mexico as well as justifying trump's actions towards mexico in american's eyes, trump will win all his altercations with her as a result.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

lol dont be disingenous, you clearly worded it referring to kamala.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

i was using kamala & trumps debate as an example of what sheinbaum's relationship is going to look like.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

No offense (offense) but lmao

Also, for all his infinite issues (and the fact both are undeniably terrible, bigoted, and genocidal people no decent person should ever support) Trump is if nothing else more ""intelligent"" and even- ergh- ""accomplished"" than Kopmala (the bar is in hell for both of them). What exactly has Kopmala done to her name other than terrorize poor people and minorities? And don't tell me that she got her role for her accomplishments or whatever (POC and a woman myself and let's not kid ourselves here lol) or that she did anything in her role (not that Biden did either, probably).

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

i was referring to sheinbaum.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago

Fair enough, admittedly your comment wasn't assumed to be referring to Sheinbaum by anyone FWIW (the wording made it sound more like Trump v. Kamala)

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 hours ago

she threw people in jail, she is accomplished!

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

an observably incompetant and ontologically evil genocide enabling war crime supporting proud-of-all-those-families-she-tore-apart-as-a-prosecuter ass piece of shit, you mean

She is no hero and no role model, she is a detestable criminal who, with the help of the criminally complicit democratic party failed the american people, not the other way around. people who voted for Kamala for any reason other than ignorance sicken me, this is a dead empire, what is done now will not cause any reduction in harm in the end, all you do is make yourself willfully complicit in the crimes of this guilty land.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

agreed; but i was referring to sheinbaum.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I expect Mexico will likely just turn towards BRICS if US throws up a hissy fit

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I could see that, and would be all for it. At least partnership status, if not a full member.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

I recall reading there was some talk about precisely that.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

it's more likely that they'll instigate another regime change in mexico should any administration ever suggest moving away from the dollar.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Regime change schemes only work when they're able to destabilize the economy first. That's precisely what BRICS prevents from happening.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

that's how it works with normal regime changes; but the americans were able to push the pri out despite a relatively decent economy and they have the ability to do it again with something like the cartels.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

We'll see how it goes, but I don't think the US today has the power to accomplish such feats.

[–] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly, by allowing trade of most commodities in non dollar denominated assets, it prevents the US from seizing control of a given country's trade. The world put up with sanctions for decades but the USA freezing dollar denominated treasury securities of Russia and Iran absolutely shot themselves in the foot. It showed the world that Washington has lost any remaining semblance of the plot they still had (as little as it was) and that they absolutely need to get away from us as fast as possible.

Additionally, IMF debt traps are increasingly making austerity common in places where people's entire lives happen at a cost of less than the average meal in the imperial core. China's BRI moves have opened actually fair trade for a bunch of countries that were being crushed by world bank. The rest of world is taking notes, hegemonic control in Washington is breaking apart and being washed away. Soon, the dam will fail and wash away, taking all of the resources Americans need with it.

If Washington was smart, they'd start working on actually shoring up American manufacturing capacity, but we know they're not going to do that, they're going to try and use CIA tactics, which may or may not work to various degrees, and then look confused AF when they're being [redacted] later.

(sorry, got a bit off topic at the end, adhd hit hard all of a sudden but I think it mostly follows a logical path through those thoughts so I'll leave it)

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The war in Ukraine will absolutely be taught in history books as the catalyst for the fall of the western empire.

[–] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I only hope I live to see the day where I can read that book.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, hope we'll make it through the next couple of months without Biden starting a nuclear holocaust.