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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It is massively fucked but... they probably should.

This war is ending in March or April one way or another. Europe/NATO have committed to supporting Ukraine. The US is almost guaranteed to actively betray them. And you can bet the EU and the like are going to be consolidating resources in fear of whatever else comes up.

So Ukraine needs to win NOW. It is probably already too late to meaningfully train those conscripts but having a military force that can act in that small window of late January is basically their only hope.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 18 hours ago

Its actually kinda amazing they are doing so well with so limited a draft and how russia has had to call in north korea. I mean even if russia wins their method to to fuck up ukraine infrastructure so then at that point what have they won and they buried themselves in the process.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago (39 children)

I admit I'm super surprised that the conscription age is 25.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

At that rate you might as well let NATO serve the purpose it was created for. Even tho that will.probably spark a world war.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Honestly I'm all for it; then handing the keys to Trump lmao.

Or implement a No Fly Zone and fully commit NATO forces to air defense. See Putin squirm on what to do and how to react. Makes the Putin-Trump relationship tense. Trump backing down would be seen as weak. Putin wouldn't retaliate because he wouldn't risk losing his puppet.

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world -5 points 13 hours ago

Also, bring back all the Ukrainian men living as expats abroad. If you want to use your Ukrainian passport to live in another country, it’s time to earn that right. Your country needs you.