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During the trial it was revealed that McDonald’s knew that heating their coffee to this temperature would be dangerous, but they did it anyways because it would save them money. When you serve coffee that is too hot to drink, it will take much longer for a person to drink their coffee, which means that McDonald’s will not have to give out as many free refills of coffee. This policy by the fast food chain is the reason the jury awarded $2.7 million dollars in punitive damages in the McDonald's hot coffee case. Punitive damages are meant to punish the defendant for their inappropriate business practice.

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[–] Maraval26@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At home my breville delivers espresso’s at 93 degrees C. But it cools quickly in porcelain cups. Did they serve the coffee at boiling temperature?

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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Makes sense in light of their new decision to do away with self serve soda fountains to fight "food theft."

[–] Declamatie@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Or they could just charge per cup

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (11 children)

It still baffles me that Americans drink liters of coffee and even ask for a refill. I drink 200ml and it's enough for the whole day for me.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A lot of the world drinks a lot of espresso or at least French press, while most of what we drink in the US is drip coffee which is weaker. And when we do go for espresso drinks, a lot of us tend to favor ones that are fairly diluted (often with sugary flavored syrups and such which it's own kind of American insanity I suppose)

Overall we do drink a lot of coffee, but it's a bit less insane when you account for that.

Personally, and I'm not sure how this stacks up against my countrymen, but I take a 20oz (a bit less than 600ml) thermos of coffee to work with me most days and drink it throughout the morning until lunch time. Caffeine wise, that's maybe a bit more than having 2 double shots of espresso, which doesn't strike me as too insane, though again I'm coming from a very American perspective.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

There's actually a lot more caffeine than you probably think, and quite a bit more than two double espressos.

Still, two double espressos is still quite a bit, I think here in Italy the average is around 2 normal espressos in the morning, which would be equal to one double. Four to five espressos in a day is considered the limit to what you should drink, more than that it's a bit much.

Also all the sugar and syrups you pour in can't be healthy.

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[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Butter dispensers at the cinema to soak their popcorn is my favourite. Like it's fucking tomato sauce on a hotdog or something!

[–] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Don't you dare put your 'tomato sauce' on our hot dogs. It's mustard or don't even talk to me

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[–] aulin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I still have trouble understanding this. The last time I saw this discussed, someone said they super heated the coffee, but this articke says it was 180-190 °F, which is still quite a ways below what it would be when you make it (92-96 °C = 197-205 °F). Would coffee normally lose a lot of heat when being poured and this was somehow poured differently so that didn't happen? Because when I make coffee and it's near boiling, I pour it and drink it almost immediately.

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[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My rule of thumb is if it's hot enough to make utensils burn you imagine what that drink is doing to your insides

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just confused about these free refills. When did Maccas offer free refills?

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

It's an USA thing

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