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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In my case the chair wobbles on 3 legs and I have to shim the 4th one.

[–] NeatoBuilds@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh I thought this was about how to make a chair not wobble anymore

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

According to the other comments here you should just rotate it

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This reminds me about Numberphile has a video that proves you can get a 4 legged table to be stable with all 4 legs touching the ground by rotating it.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Does it require any arbitrary constraints on the topography of the floor?

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sorta. The function height(angle) needs to be continuous. From there it's pretty clear why it works if you know the mean value theorem.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I guess the assumption it takes is that there aren't larger topographic changes for the other legs between their points, and that the legs are equal length. But I like it, it's a fun one I'm trying next time

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

So we assume a perfect table on an imperfect floor?

Sounds like a theological allegory.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This can’t actually work if the floor is a level plane right?

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right. Somehow I was thinking only of the floor being uneven, not the table legs. Surely it's trivial to have table legs sufficiently different to not fit on any arbitrary shape of floor?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Haha yes :) I was somehow thinking for this type of problem, the usual case is the legs are uneven… because if the floor is uneven or not level the table will be uneven or not level regardless of whether it has 0, 1, or n legs. But I guess the problem is about “wobbling” not about being level.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

If the table has three legs it will be stable on any floor no matter how uneven (up to some limit!). Won't be perfectly flat, but won't wobble.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, the floor has to be bigger than the chair.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh dear. Usually the chair is so big it stands way above the floor.

Also what about the table? Should that still be larger than the chair?

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

I only manage two but that's how many legs I have in total so no change to be on more than two while doing anything else

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Not that impressive on carpet

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Impossible, guy would need a true level surface.

[–] kopasz7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hold my beer. I can do it on any surface with just three legs.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Does it work with blue chairs?