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Senate Republicans are predicting that Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) will need to reach out to House Democrats to get the votes to prevent a government shutdown at the end of next week.

GOP senators don’t think McCarthy will be able to unify his entire GOP conference behind any measure to prevent an Oct. 1 shutdown and will have to rely on Democrats to keep federal departments and agencies open.

But they predict the Speaker won’t reach out across the aisle until the last possible moment to avoid a backlash from House conservatives, who are threatening to offer a motion to essentially dump him as Speaker if he does not hew to their demands for major spending cuts.

The reality, they say, is that the only spending measure that can pass both the Senate and House is one that has bipartisan support.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit! The Speaker of the House might have to be bipartisan? What is this fuckery!?

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Burn him as a witch!"

-Republicans, almost certainly

[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

He turned me into a newt!

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Already failed the DoD vote, so he's running out of options.

If he does go to the Democrats, he's screwed. If he doesn't he is still screwed.

Dude wanted this job too.....hahahahahaha!

[–] books@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny. The last two gop speakers quit because trying to manage these goof balls is like pulling hairs off your nutsack.

McCarthy thought he could do it better than actual politically savy people..

He's a buffoon.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

McCarthy thought he could do it better than actual politically savy people

I don’t know about that. I think he just wanted the job on his resume. A book deal or a job with a lobbying firm pays more to a former Speaker of the House than it does to some congressman from Bakersfield.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, sure. But it also helps if you were an effective speaker.

Any lobbying firm hiring this speaker, who can't keep the house's business flowing, won't be able to do shit when he isn't speaker either.

[–] books@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Probably some truth to that, but also had an embarrassing nomination process, and had to give away way too much power.

Like, it's an impressive resume booster if you are a successful speaker of the house, or if you have enough sense to bow out at a reasonable time... but who gives a shit what is on his resume when the first thing you get when you google Kevin Mcarthy is the fact that he let one person write his death warrant as speaker, or the fact that he had 15 votes to get the gavel in the first place.

I legitimately think that he believes he was more political savy than someone like Paul Ryan, and I don't believe anyone in their right mind would agree with that.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

You got it all wrong, he didn't want to do the job, he just wanted the title

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have to be stupid to try to herd modern Republicans.

Their mindset in every interaction is to tell you to go fuck yourself and work against you. It's why they can bitch and whine all day, but find governance to be a wholly foreign concept and appear surprised and confused when they catch that "in charge" car they've been chasing, and proceed to blame their out of power opposition when the wheels come off.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me guess.... Democrats will welcome him with open arms and not set up any stipulations or demand anything in return for their cooperation?

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Senate Republicans are greatly overestimating McCarthy's ethics and sense

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There will be consessions. Since he launched impeachment proceedings, it won't be easy. Any savy Speaker would have waited until the budget cleared.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

He thought he could get the terrorists in his party to support him if he gave them what they demanded. They got their cookies, now they want the fucking milk.

[–] MossBear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

In the immortal words of Shredder...."They're baaaabbbiiiesss!"

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

This whole term proves the case for pragmatic moderates over dogmatic extremists IMO, even if you agree with the extremists. If the Freedom Caucus could just compromise with moderates, they could pass a very conservative budget, and then negotiate with Senate Democrats from strength. Since they can't, the House can only pass things that House Democrats approve of, which will be much more moderate and the final compromise will be much more friendly to Democrats...because of these far-right Republicans.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Senate Republicans are predicting that Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) will need to reach out to House Democrats to get the votes to prevent a government shutdown at the end of next week.

Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), a member of the Appropriations Committee, voiced concern about the looming government funding deadline.

“I’m going to leave it up to him,” Graham said of McCarthy, adding, “The world is a very dangerous place, and we need to get our national defense infrastructure well funded to deter aggression.

The defense bill stalled in the House Tuesday after five conservatives joined Democrats to defeat the rule that was needed to pass the $826 billion measure.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said the demands of the House Freedom Caucus, such as cutting discretionary spending levels outside the departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs by 8 percent, are unrealistic.

Another Republican senator who requested anonymity to discuss McCarthy’s inability to pass spending bills suggested that conservative rebels are taking unfair shots at the Speaker to undermine his leadership.


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