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Illustration of overlapping browser windows with Ecosia's logo, a tree graphic, Firefox's logo, and the text "Together for a better web," alongside a search bar with a green cursor.

Your tech choices matter more than ever. That’s why at Mozilla, we believe in empowering users to make informed decisions that align with their values. In that spirit, we’re excited to announce our partnership with Ecosia, a search engine that prioritizes sustainability, and social impact.

Did you know you could choose the search engine of your choice right from your Firefox URL bar? Whether you prioritize privacy, climate protection, or simply want a search experience tailored to your preferences, we’ve got you covered.

Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns. Every search made through the search engine contributes to tree-planting projects worldwide, helping to combat deforestation and regenerate the planet. Ecosia planted over 215 million trees, across the planet biodiversity hotspots, making a tangible difference in the fight against climate change. Just like Mozilla, they are committed to creating a better internet, and world, for everyone.

Together, Mozilla, Firefox and Ecosia are contributing to a web that is more open and inclusive, but above all — one where you can make an informed choice about what tech you use and why. Your tech choices make a difference.

As Firefox and Mozilla continue to champion user empowerment and innovation, we invite you to join us in shaping a web that makes the world better. Together, let’s make a positive impact — one search at a time.

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 62 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Whether you prioritize privacy*, climate protection, or simply want a search experience tailored to your preferences, we’ve got you covered.

Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns...

Together, Mozilla, Firefox and Ecosia are contributing to a web that is more open and inclusive, but above all — one where you can make an informed choice about what tech you use and why. Your tech choices make a difference.

Someone should tell Mozilla about the AI-sized environmental concern in their browser?

* ETA: Ecosia doesn't mention privacy as a feature anywhere on its homepage. (I'm not counting the link to its unimpressive privacy policy.) They call themselves "Google, but greener", and I believe them.

[–] hangonasecond@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In that sentence, they're not referring to Ecosia specifically. Rather, they're implying that you can choose a search engine which aligns to that value. A little weird to include it with no examples, in a post specifically about Ecosia, but I believe that's the intent.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

To wit, the very next sentence sure does seem to say that Ecosia is private.

Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns.

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[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mozilla is on a great tear. Layoffs, pointless rebrand, and now a shit privacy greenwashing search engine partnership. I'm so excited for the future of Firefox.

[–] TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] geography082@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Firefox WAS Netscape. Netscape was open sourced, rewritten, and released as Firebird (in reference to a phoenix’s rise from Netscape’s ashes). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application_Suite

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I've been following Ladybird as well, and hope it comes to fruition. Without it we're kinda fucked.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think there is suppose to be a an alpha coming this summer.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which pointless rebrand? I actually like "moz://a".

[–] breakcore@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yea, but they changed to a weird flag thing (?) and a boring font logo:

At least they got this guy:

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

Oh well, at least the error animals are foxes and not a really weirdly drawn dinosaur

[–] 2kool4idkwhat@lemdro.id 38 points 2 months ago

So... what does this partnership actually mean? Will Ecosia be the default search engine once the deal with Google ends?

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Ecosia, the "green" search engine with AI chat. Perfect match for Firefox, the browser ever more integrated with AI technology.

I've just given up on Mozilla, using Cromite after a decade of Firefox/Fennec on desktop and mobile had been such an upgrade.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 58 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Id still trust/prefer a firefox based browser than something chromium based. Their are a lot of good firefox forks out their and it helps make googles stranglehold of web standards slower. I wish u luck one manifest v2 gets killed (ik its still supported for some forks of chromium but how long is that gonna last?)

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What do you mean by trusting? I trust Mozilla to increase the executives wages at the cost of everybody in the organisation. I trust that they'll incorporate more and more features I find unwanted. Privacy-wise I haven't trusted Mozilla since telemetry was opt-out. Security wise I haven't trusted any browser for decades.

Each to their own, I hope you're happy with your setup.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it's more complex than that, because of the issue of the rendering engine. If Firefox-based browsers disappear, the W3C (which controls web standards, including questions of privacy) will be de-facto controlled by a cabal of corporations. The last voice that cares even slightly about our privacy will be gone.

Opt-out telemetry is bad, overpaid executives is bad. The alternative is worse.

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With no intention of stirring the pot, this sounds just like the pre-election arguments in favor of Democrats.

The last voice that cares even slightly about our privacy will be gone.

The emphasis here should be on "even slightly" rather than the dramatic effect of "the last voice".

I mean, if this slice approaches zero, then why it is better to stay with Firefox rather than moving on to more radical solutions?

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Indeed, this is just the pragmatism-vs-idealism debate.

I am a pragmatist, you are an idealist. In my view, by asking for everything you are more likely to get nothing. It's not worth it. It's irresponsible.

this sounds just like the pre-election arguments in favor of Democrats.

Yes, and excellent arguments they were. What a different world we might live in today if just a handful of idealists had decided to suck it up and vote for the Democrat instead of the third-party purist who made their heart sing.

if this slice approaches zero, then why it is better to stay with Firefox rather than moving on to more radical solutions?

Because history shows that "radical solutions" are almost always a mirage. We already have an excellent browser made by a flawed but generally admirable company. If there are problems, the solution is to fix them, not to burn it all down.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Browser choice and presidential vote are so different from one another as to have no value in their comparison.

If you insist on crapping on third-party US American voters, please do it in the politics community in Lemmy.world.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

please do it in the politics community in

To spare you the trauma of hearing an opinion you don't agree with? Contemporary US politics in a microcosm!

It was not me who made the comparison.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So u dont like group a whats ur solution? Start supporting group b who are way way way worse? Doesnt seem like the brightest idea to me ngl

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

"Ecosia Chat is powered by OpenAI"

ffs

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[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh great, shitty bing search results with tree NFTs.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

oh no, don't take away Google results that fill the entire screen with ads and irrelevant bullshit that relies my stolen data before my actual search terms!

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Ecosia being any better in this regard would be news to me. They also rely on ads for funding.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

As if Google's results haven't been getting worse

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[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this upset Google? (who is the biggest revenue source for Mozilla)

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mozilla will probably lose (part of or all of, it's not clear yet) Google's funding following their monopoly case, so it's probably best for them to look for other revenue sources.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They could also stop all this nonsense crap projects they sink money in without any real benefit, and focus mainly on the browser. This would give the browser likely 500% more funding than it has right now.

Have one product, but make it a perfect product.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

500% more funding than it has right now.

From whom?

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] LWD@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I was waiting for the 2023 forms to drop.

I'm shocked to find out Mitchell Baker has taken a pay cut of ~$600,000, now struggling at a much more relatable $6.2 million instead of $6.9 million

(ETA $600,000 is also her "base" salary, the rest of the $6.2m is her "bonus." She lost one base salary worth of bonuses last year.)

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So after constantly yelling at Mozilla for 10+ years they should do all kinds of things like a VPN, now we no longer find them to experiment to find alternative money sources?

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

The money sources are not the issue. The money sinks are. An no-one ever yelled at Mozilla to offer a VPN.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their other projects mostly exist, because those make money. The browser hardly does so, outside of the search engine deals.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Their other projects mostly exist, because those make money.

Except the projects that don't make money.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Oh, that's bad. Ecosia won't even give them a fraction of the revenue google does... I've no idea how they're going to continue going on...

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