Congrats, everyone! We finally did it! And way ahead of schedule! Take that, scientists! They said we couldn’t do it before 2050. They warned us! They scolded us! But look at us now! Eat it, nerds!
sigh
This is fucking ridiculous.
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I'm just sad I'll never have another snow filled winter living here
So about when can we expect the next ice age?
We're in the ice age, it's supposed to be cold right now. So... Around 100,000 years after humanity either dies out or becomes subterranean.
Don't worry, cheaper solar panels, electric cars and entrepreneurs will save humanity. And by humanity I mean a specific share of the world's developed nations. Discourse on this frustrates me to an unhealthy degree.
If you promote techno-fetishism laden, borderline tech-bro driven or shitass bill gates financed media, please reply so I may wish upon your remaining bloodline an everlasting mildly inconvenient curse.
And if you like Kurzgesagt tech videos, please reply so I may respectfully call you a fucking donkey.
What's that about kurzgesagt?
I often found good citations/ research evidence linked to their claims (on climate change)
They repeat whatever their donors claim without any checking on their part. Sometimes this lines up with science, sometimes it's just propaganda.
Any example videos that are propoganda?
I'd like to scrutinize one so I can fact check better in the future. I mainly check the citations in the links.
Bingo!!!
I had this on my 2024 bingo card.
God I hope I'm wrong about 2025 BOE.
And so far, what have we done?
Pretty much nothing. We've done a lot of pretending with "let's recycle plastics", which them just get dumped anyway because fuck you, that's why.
We're slowly slowly moving to electrical cars instead of pushing hard for bicycles and public transportation. Profits over anything else!
We've implemented.next day deliveries, because THAT is important. Fuck your winter
The US just choose a climate change denier who put a guy in charge of the EPA that can't stop talk about pushing businesses and economy and oil.
The world is lead by narcissistic psychopaths and everyone just lets them.
I wanted to see that compared with global energy demand
Line go up so line can go up
Yes, the line is going up. That's good, right? Shareholders keep telling me that the line must go up, and it looks like we're doing it! Good job, everyone.
May our descendants never forgive us.
If there are any.
Don't blame me, I recycled! /s
Our mass cowardice, mine included, is our shame and culpability.
Like the German citizens who weren't Nazis but stayed quiet and didn't protest, only on a global scale. We should all be Greta, getting arrested doing the right thing, but again cowardice in the face of inhumanity is our sin.
Just smart enough to figure out how to blow ourselves up, and still stupid enough to do it.
It always provides context for me in life to remember that, with great difficulty, humanity managed to do something I would think any sapient life form would consider a massive technological threshold/achievement: we figured out how to split the atom, releasing practically limitless energy.
...And Why did we suddenly rush to do so? To make big boomie boom rival monkey tribe.
"Our technology has exceeded our humanity" - Albert Einstein
Check out what they did with my recycling: https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/09/03/swedens-largest-environmental-crime-11-people-on-trial-accused-of-illegally-dumping-waste
Yep, even in the nations I often look up to from my gold plated shithole as the last models of humanity on Earth, all the while going back to the same question...
...and being left with the same sad answer, we as a species arent the cure, and we aren't both, we're just the disease.
Hottest year to date, so far.
Insert rookie numbers meme
Big fucked if true.
I looked it up the other day. We crossed 1c in 2015/2016. News stories at the time talked about how 1.5 might happen as early as 2035 if we don’t get our climate act together.
Yikes.
With Trump, he’s gonna help get to 2c by 2028…. Mega fucked.
We did it guys 🥳
I see so many people thinking that this isn't going to be a problem for them because they are thinking of heaters and AC and also that they'll probably die while it's still livable.
But meanwhile they put kids on this world, who will call our generations the worst people to have ever existed.
Despite what capitalism would have you believe, humans are part of nature. With the same effort that has allowed us to destroy nature faster than any other species, we can maintain or restore balance better than any other species. It makes as much sense to argue against the next generation of humans to "restore the ecosystem" as it makes sense to argue against the next generation of bees.
Let them call us, those born in the 20th century, the worst people to have ever existed. It's not far from the truth. But why let that stop us from doing the right thing: giving birth to them so they can fix this mess for future generations or die trying? Why let our shame deny the ecosystem the best chance at recovery?
With all the respect, Your argument feels just dogmatic. If we can solve the climate crisis, we must do it, not hope for someone else to. All this generational talk feels just like an excuse to keep the status quo. There's no magical generation coming to save the world, just people just like us.
I'm saying it's extremely selfish to put kids on a world you're not fighting hard enough for because it doesn't concern you.
This is a genuinely nice sentiment, but it is worth noting that the world is way more populated than most past generations, and while any hope for us will fall largely on the squares of future generations, their job would be so much easier if there were a lot less of them.
Some developed countries seem to have this notion that declining birth rates will be the end of them and while that can be somewhat true for how economic systems are set up, the world was objectively a lot more sustainable before the boomers generation, population wise
Because living in a world with extreme weather events where you can't leave your house for weeks because of heat waves and never before seen storms, and possibly damage to your home(this has already happened where I live), where a home garden will die to heat waves, with constant shortages of food and water, is not a life I'd wish on my enemy, much less someone I love.
We are already starting to see more extreme heat waves and weather, we know it's happening, and we're drilling for more oil than ever, so the chances the next generation will suddenly start making big changes when the past two have done worse than nothing while being fully informed seems extremely unlikely to me. I'm pretty optimistic on most everything, but there is not a single sign pointing to this being resolved by humans within the next 100 years, if ever.
We at least didn't have kids, and I'll probably accidentally drink myself to death anyway.
Same here. Cheers!
Grim milestone and barely a peep about it in popular discourse. Everyone needs to prepare personally for the consequences.
For one thing I'm not expecting food prices to level off for the rest of my life. Everything's just going to get more scarce and expensive. Is it possible common foods we enjoy now we may never have again at some point?
On a lighter note. I got a new winter jacket in 2019. Between covid and the rapid decline of cold winters I've barely worn it.
Human migration is going to get crazy really soon.
Sitting here in a beautiful sunny day, people can be forgiven for thinking its not a big deal.
Until you realise how much energy it takes to raise the temperature of the ocean and land by 1.5. And then that all that energy goes into every weather event forever until we reverse it.
55 degrees F in Massachusetts a week before Christmas. I was driving with my windows down. I got nuthin else. What the shit, man.
It’s been twenty degrees F (11C) above average in Arizona this week. Should be frigid with snow on the ground (in the mountains) yet I was riding my bike with a t-shirt this week.
OK, I looked it up. Average from 1979 to 1999 for me on December 17th was 29.1 degrees F.
Can we have it in non-freedom units, il even take a clothing layer comparison is the metric systemis spawn of Satan. Is this snow - t shirt weather?
The shape of that curve scares me. I just hope it's a sigmoid curve, not an exponential.
Every collapse seems to trigger 12 others, further compounding things at an insane rate
True exponentials are rare in nature. Things can look exponential in the short term but are really logistic.
Look at it this way: if the atmosphere gets hot enough it’ll boil off into space and then the earth will cool back down again due to the loss of greenhouse effect.
Unless we’re the next Venus
We don’t have the atmospheric pressure to be Venus (92 times the pressure of earth’s atmosphere). There’s simply far more gas there than here!
Yeah, sadly not a suprise
And with it, another group of mitigation advocates become doomsday acceptors in the scientific community.
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