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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 15 minutes ago

Yes. I moved from cigarettes to vape about five years ago. I was steadily reducing vaping to quit entirely before the pan happened and I allowed myself to continue vaping to aid anxiety. I have not attempted to quit since.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 minutes ago

Yes, it just took me about 5 years of on and off vaping πŸ˜…. Vaping is a much better addiction to have than smoking though.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

Yes! I smoked for over 20 years. I didn't think I'd ever be able to quit. I started vaping with the goal of quitting, and eventually quit! Then I quit vaping too, about six months later. It's an excellent cessation method, with almost a 70% success rate. The next closest cessation method has a success rate of 3% and is owned by the tobacco companies.

Get a device that hits like a cigarette. This means mouth to lung, and not a big DTL cloud machine. It also ideally means a round mouthpiece. Make sure it's good enough to give throat hit, but not so good that it produces massive clouds. Ideally you want a device that is not sub-ohm. Start with 18mg tobacco flavored juice. Then just vape. Sometimes you'll smoke cigarettes, and sometimes you'll vape. Don't beat yourself up when you smoke, but try to vape more than you smoke. Before you know it, you'll be reaching for the vape more than the cigarettes, until you don't reach for cigarettes at all. Then you're free!

Once you're free, wait a month and then cut the juice down to 12mg, then 6, then 3, then a mix of 0 and 3, then 0! After a couple weeks of 0 you'll just naturally quit, no discipline required.

Share this information with the person you know, and tell them that if I could do it, anyone can do it!

Edit: for such a device I recommend the Geekvape B coil series, in higher ohm ranges.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 2 points 55 minutes ago

You can try but some people are allergic to the liquids used. And the person vaping has to slowly decrease the nicotine amount over time, a lot of people start increasing it instead and end up with more unhealthy nicotine levels than regular cigs. Also vaping is not good for the lungs either.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

While it may not stop the nicotine addiction. It beats the tar and crap actual cigarettes....

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. Although I struggle with vaping nicotine WAY too much and I feel like it has caused me some issues.

Still, way better than real cigs as far as my lungs are concerned - but the ease of being able to vape and constantly get a nicotine fix has been the real issue for me. Currently reading Alan Carr’s the Easy Way to get this monkey off my back once and for all.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Absolutely, there is no mistaking vaping is bad for you. But there are levels of bad.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

Additionally, there has not been enough legit science data to indicate how bad it is.

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 0 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

I quit smoking cigarettes after moving to vape but vape isn't better for you so, it's just reading one for another.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

It is absolutely better for you. Whomever told you that it isn't, is probably reading tobacco company propaganda.

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I did, not sure it made it easier though. It took away two negatives for smoking for me, it didn't smell bad to others and I could smoke inside.

If anything it made it harder to quit, but they're supposedly much better for you

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Regardless of the health benefits for you personally, they're much better and less unpleasant for those around you.

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 42 minutes ago

I'm not sure that vaping inside is better than smoking outside. You're right about it being more pleasant and likely right about it being healthier, do you know of any research comparing second hand smoke on clothes to second hand vape (comparing smoking outside to vaping inside)

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Check out SmokeFree.gov! It has great free resources that are science based. Quitting smoking is the number thing someone who smokes can do for their health.

The most effective methods to quit smoking include varenicline (aka Chantix), FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapies (gum, patch, lozenge, inhaler, etc), and behavioral therapy. Combining all of these therapies in a clinical trials results in the most people quitting.

No vape is FDA-approved as a cessation therapy, because no company has applied. There have been some small academic run trials, which tend to show a decrease in smoking, but continued nicotine addiction. Probably because vapes have much higher nicotine content than FDA-approved therapies. While vapes expose people to a lot less carcinogens than smoke, there are some carcinogens and nicotine itself is harmful to vascular and mental health. So if the evidence-based methods don't work, completely switching to vaping would be less harmful.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

Those are bullshit. Look at the cessation success rate of those methods, and then look at vape. Vape is almost 70% success rate, and those other methods are like 3%. The tobacco companies own most of those methods. Don't listen to some stupid sponsored study for this, listen to the people who have done it. Vaping is a successful cessation method, and all of the attempts to ban it have been driven by lobbying & dark money from the tobacco companies.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Agreed. There is a lot of new research on vaping. Could potentially cause a number of issues, but probably still better than actual smoking. I've heard the inhalers work sometimes because of the nicotine as well as the physical movements involved.

I've also seen exactly one ad (on YouTube) for some sort of flavour inhaler (no nicotine) if you're having trouble with the physical aspect. Can't say any more about that though, as I haven't looked into it.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

Yup.

An older friend who smoke and drank a ton switched to vapes, and methodically lowered the nicotine content every two-there weeks for months, then stopper nicotine and vaped the flavours but as there was no more nicotine, the habit wasn't addicting and he just forgot about it more or less.

Now he's been alone free for years, and reduced his drinking as well. Looks fucking healthy now.

[–] amstafff@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

100% yes. It made a big difference for me. I didn't even want to stop smoking I just did.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Depends on what part of it you're addicted to.

I just want nicotine. I don't care out of what.

Some people want the feel, sensation and flavor of a cigarette.

I just want my fix so I can carry on with my day.

That's kinda the line between moving to a vape or not.

[–] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Cosign, I just liked the smoking myself. Vapes made it worse if anything cus it made smoking more conventent πŸ˜‚ no ash, ashtray or lighter thats somehow always missing.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Also being able to do it indoors without practically any negative side effect doesn’t help lol

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. I switched to vaping after smoking a pack a day for ten years. Then in about a year I was able to winnow my usage down and quit vaping too.

I had tried many times to quit before that. Have not smoked in 13 years now and after about 8 years I stopped liking the smell.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Crazy hearing vaping helped you stop 13 years ago. My brain tells me they only came out 2 years ago...

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Vaping blew up around 2010 and gradually increased in popularity until all of the Juul controversies happened. Since all of the laws passed to restrict it more, it is now easier to get a non-reusable piece of ewaste than reusable and refillable stuff.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Naw there were vapes when i went to high school in the mid to late 2000s.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

20 years ago I quit smoking with chewing tobacco aka dip. That shit is WAY better than cigarettes. Dip was even harder to quit. Then I went back to off and on cigarettes for 18 years. I have not had one in a year and a half and have no intention or desire to ever start that shit up again. Welbutrin is also pretty helpful for this. My best friend did mostly quit by switching to vape though, so I think it can work. I'm pretty sure it's also just as bad for you though?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

Now they have those nicotine pouches that are even better.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 hours ago

Yup.

I smoked a pack a day for roughly 30 years. My night time breathing was getting ugly and my wife would sometimes get woken up by the sound of my wheezing.

Every method of quitting failed me except vaping. I started as most do with a high nicotine vape juice that tasted like tobacco, but after about a month I swapped and started going lower and lower nicotine and change the flavor from tobacco to a custardy type.

2 months of that got me off the cigs. Two more months got me down to zero nicotine. Two or three more months after that I was done.

I have been off cigs for 7 years.

My breathing no longer feels wet or difficult at night. And My yearly health tests all come back the same as a non-smoker.

My mom did. She smoked cigarettes since the 80s and quit in 2012 with vape. She never smoked a single cigarette after that

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 3 points 4 hours ago

someone = yes

everyone = no

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Nope. I smoked for over 30 years. Took up vaping to quit and all I did was vape more than I ever smoked.

For me, what worked was… I had to go back to smoking regular cigarettes, then use Wellbutrin as a smoking cessation. Took about a month and a half-

I’ve been smoke free for over two years.

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. Switched to vaping and was vaping for multiple years before quitting completely. Biggest thing was the "safety" of always being able to have my fix without an actual smoke. The "never again" mentality made it so hard to ditch the cancer stick but the vape was always like "it's ok, you can just have a little puff whenever you feel like it". Slowly down the nicotine content. Puff less. Even less. At some point I just forgot. Still have the vape. Still have the liquid, albeit it's dark red now and looks radioactive so utterly unusable. But point is that the vape eventually faded into irrelevance in a way that cigarettes never could.

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[–] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I got a few people around me who are trying to find a good reusable vape. Those seem to have disappeared which makes it harder to self regulate.

If anyone has a hood recommendation I am all ears.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

Geekvape makes some good systems for the B coils.

[–] recentSloth43@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I personally know multiple people who did

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I did, but I would mix my own fluid; every couple of batches I would half the nicotine content. Eventually it was near-negligible, and perhaps two weeks after that I was doneski

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I did but it took me a long time, years and years, with occasional dips back into smoking.

Now though it's nearly been 2 years no vape or anything and at least three years of no nicotine.

I went up and down in nicotine levels, I used big huge cloud throwing fog machines and little tiny disposables.

I eventually settled on a unit with a built in rechargeable battery and pods with replaceable coils (geekvape aegis)

I don't think vaping will naturally result in quitting, it I do think it's the most effective harm reducer out there and as a tool has many ways to help reduce use over time.

High nicotine disposables (elf bars, juul) I would stay away from if you can though since the nicotine concentration is so high that it can deepen the addiction.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 58 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I quit smoking using a vape and then quit vaping.

I found that it was easier to quit smoking using a vape because I kept the same motion. I needed a powerful one to feel a similar hit.

And I found it easier to stop vaping than to stop smoking because I could mix liquids to have any desired nicotine content, allowing me to reduce it very gradually. A lot of people simply replace smoking with vaping but that's still an improvement.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

A lot of people simply replace smoking with vaping but that's still an improvement.

Why/how is it an improvement? They are just moving from one way to consume it to another.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 5 points 1 hour ago

Because different ways to consume have different health hazards.

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