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Tinder thinks some people will pay almost $500 a month for more 'efficient ways to find connections' with its 'VIP' plan::Tinder Select is only available to some of the dating app's "highly engaged and active" users, and it'll cost about $6,000 a year, Bloomberg reported.

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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 138 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tinder, like most businesses, is hunting whales.

[-] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough, that's how a lot of people will describe their user experience as well.

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Lmao, yeah, you can find some whales on there, alright.

You won lemmy today.

Good job. :)

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 97 points 1 year ago

“We’re sorry, true love is not available in your membership tier.”

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

For casual sex, please drink promotional can of Monster® now

[-] johnthedoe@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 year ago

Honestly like no amount of money will change the results if your dating profile is shit.

If you’re a whale willing to spend 500 on tinder, spend it on marketing yourself. New photos, personal trainer, hobbies and seriously important - new clothes that fit you.

Lot of single people I meet always say “I don’t want to change who I am”. Changing the way you look and feel isn’t changing who you are. Unless you’re actually as shallow as your outfit. It’s not lame to see what the trends are and even ask a salesperson of the opposite sex for advice. Putting yourself out there is all aspects of such.

Present your best self. Because that’s all a person swiping can judge you on. That 5 seconds.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is good advice.

Also a lot of people really drop the ball when they do get a match. Some hot advice because a lot of people out there seem to need help.

  • ask questions. If someone asks you "did you see the Barbie movie?" do not just reply yes or no. That's not how this game works. Try "No, but I heard it was really good. What did you think?". Open ended questions are better. Imagine you are playing catch. Their question is the ball. You caught it. Nice! Now fucking throw it back.

  • ask people out on a date*. do not ask them to come directly to your home. Dates do not have to be expensive. Drinks, coffee, snacks in the park, whatever. So long as it's public and lets you actually talk, you're good.

    • do not message for days before asking out. People are capricious and they're going to forget about you if you're just a blip in tinder. If you are too nervous to ask someone out, delete the app until you're ready to date.
    • the above is from the perspective of a man who doesn't date men. I can't speak to other experiences as confidently.
  • put stuff you want to talk about in your profile. Do not leave your profile blank. Do not be "clever" by writing "no one reads this" or "I'm really two lizards in a coat." Your profile is your ad copy. Your profile holds your story hooks. Give the other person something to work with. "I love my friends" is not going to start a good conversation.

[-] johnthedoe@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Assuming people interested in this are guys. Dating apps are a women’s market and that’s just facts. Because of such their profile can be completely trash and they’ll get matches.

For guys you need to put the work in. I met my wife on tinder (ages ago before paid tier even was introduced). It was after a lot of trial and error on the app.

Your profile needs to show who you are in the best light, and really importantly to show you’re not dangerous

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Great analogy, and it's honestly funny (and sad) that it needs to be said.

I'm male and have never considered myself to be attractive, but when I was on dating sites I had no problem blocking the occasional matches I got after a few one word answers.

In my opinion, one person shouldn't be responsible for keeping the other person entertained and engaged.. there needs to be some back and forth.

One more tip for you terrible daters out there - stay off your phone unless you're specifically showing the other person something.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Or just spend the $500 on an escort if you’re that desperate. You can get a pretty classy gal for $500.

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I'm only moderately classy, but I'll do it for $400. I'm really good at pretending to be interested in stuff I don't care about, so they can talk about whatever weirdness they got going on that makes them willing to pay $500 a month for fuckin tinder. What a steal!

[-] FatAdama@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago
[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What do you think this is? Tinder will pay $150 for a girl to go on a couple dates and pocket the $350. The "enhanced profile" will have a near 100% success rate, if success is defined as a date with a girl who's only interested in money.

They've probably already workshopped a name for the "content creators".

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That honestly makes me kind of sad. Not even specifically the escorting part but just like.. that seems like a small amount of money for that on the escort's end. Like for example, I am pretty sure there are OF girls who sell nudes for that much lol

[-] serratur@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 year ago

Just stop spending money on tinder, it only works if you are top10% and even then people get miserable.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah there’s a lot of advice here but the data has shown that for the most part if you aren’t in the top tier of attractiveness you are getting ignored, no matter what the algorithm does

Step 1: Be attractive
Step 2: Don’t be unattractive
Step 3: Definitely don’t spend money on Tinder because it won’t magically fix step 1 and 2

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Ah shit, I've failed 1 and 2. I better not fail 3 then.

[-] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It shows that you have $500 to throw in the garbage. That would interest a lot of people.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I just want to show them my butthole. But now I have to tell all my neighbors I like to show people my butthole and no one seems interested when I tell them.

[-] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Your comment is a screenplay waiting to happen.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

If the dating apps can't provide decent results even once in a while then why would I pay?

"There are several emails from people who are interested, just pay a subscription fee to read them."

Pays sub fee and find out the emails are just spam.

Yeah I'll pay hundreds for this.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At what point does this just become pimping?

(Surely they could make even more money by compensating people who are more in-demand for their time ...)

[-] Ryantific_theory@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, next thing you know they'll be sliding offers to the most liked people's profiles offering the chance to become compensated daters if they go out with VIP profiles, no pressure to do anything sexual though, because that'd be illegal.

Honestly, this 500$ a month thing is just sad, because it'll definitely work (financially), and Tinder will do some shenanigans with the algorithm to make it seem a little worth it, and it'll just definitely not be worth it to the people paying 500$ a month.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Most of the people who are going to pay for it, are the ones who the algo has buried so hard they get shown to no one. So it will sadly give them fat better results....

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

$500 a month? Fuuuuuck that noise

[-] MJKee9@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

At those prices, that's not the only thing getting fucked.

[-] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 31 points 1 year ago

For $500 a month it better put out, and do my taxes.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 year ago

$500 a month is a lot of horny. It could also host some seriously amazing mixers. (Cue Mitchell and Web's friends of... bit.)

[-] BrudderAaron@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The best thing I've ever done with my mental health is stop chasing the idea that being with someone is the key to happiness. Things like tinder just prey on insecurities with false promises.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Yes, some people are unfortunately desperate to find love.

Tinder is absolutely not the way to do it, but they're emotionally susceptible to this sort of manipulative abuse, so....yeah. Tinder will rake in the cash.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This really showcases the perverse incentives of the profit motive, how it corrupts even what humans consider the most precious thing. And this is why I will never use a commercial dating app. It's FOSS or bust. I'll just make friends and find people other ways.

Even a subscription to a dating app very obviously shows where their incentives lie. How can a subscription ever work when the goal is to find someone.. and stop using the app? They are not incentivized to have people find someone. They are incentivized to keep people desperate. They are incentivized to not have them find anyone, and keep telling them "it's just chance! You'll find someone eventually! You don't want to die alone.. do you? You do not want to be a sad little loser without anyone.. do you? We even have these paid things to increase your chances...."

It's downright fucked up.

Not to even mention the whole gross things like having to "market yourself". Removing all of humanity from the experience and instead treating yourself like a fucking product.

And the truth is, in my experience.. it's really not that hard to meet people if you just work on becoming a better person (which isn't easy, to be fair, but necessary, especially since you will struggle with getting much out of love if you don't), and are actually getting out there. Just meeting new people and friends without much expectations. Whether it's on a friend's party, board game night at your university, or whatever interests you have. Because too often I think people just don't meet many new people in general, and just treat getting a partner like a goal, instead of forming new connections. Eventually you may meet someone you click with. After all, people of your preferred gender(s) are looking for others too.

[-] 01011@monero.town 16 points 1 year ago

Yes, sex workers will. They'll make it back in 1 hour.

[-] jerome@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

if someone pays 500 bucks to get a date, then they are getting nothing but gold diggers.

[-] jackoneill@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Hookers would be cheaper and easier

[-] withabeard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

These are hookers... just expensive ones

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 year ago

Do these hookers play black jack?

[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

i am not sure but a guy i know had a shit profile, paid money to tinder and not only did they fix his profile real good but got him in the slut slot. the girls were way above his league and some worked in adult entertainmemt..like webcam girls and stuff. not sure if thats a good or bad thing really?! so i'd say big data sets from their users and some mild AI stuff can do magic.

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Tinder sucks and their support team is dumb as bricks.

[-] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Super effective. It weeds out the 95 percenters!

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Tinder has introduced a new subscription option that costs nearly $500 a month.

Tinder Select is a "VIP" service that's only on offer to about 1% of the dating app's most active users, the company says on its website.

Select will enable users to access exclusive features including "Skip The Line," which allows others to see your profile after you like them even if they don't have a gold or silver membership, and "Direct Message," which lets you send someone a message without having matched them up to twice a week.

Users need to apply for the service and must meet the company's "5-point Select Screen," requiring a verified photo, "show a relationship intent," and have four images, five interests, and a biography.

"We know that there is a subset of highly engaged and active users who prioritize more effective and efficient ways to find connections," said Tinder's chief product officer Mark Van Ryswyk, Bloomberg reported.

"So we engaged in extensive tests and feedback with this audience over the past several months to develop a completely new offering."


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[-] planish@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

which allows others to see your profile after you like them even if they don’t have a gold or silver membership,

How the hell do they expect their app to actually work at all if that isn't built in????

"Hello yes I have a dating app, it will help you find people to date. The way it works is, if you say you like someone, then they can't read about you. This will enable you to get dates with all the hottest precognitive telepaths who magically already know about you."

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