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Hi all, maybe this community can help recommend some new shows. I'm looking for Star Trek-like 'world-of-the-week' stuff.

I've already seen the following:

The Orville
The Expanse
Battlestar Galactica
Farscape
Babylon 5 (I forgot that I never finished it, so it's going back on the menu)
Stargate SG-1 Quantum Leap (looooove Scott Bakula)
Doctor Who (Not all of it, but pretty caught up since Eccleston)
Firefly
Sliders
Foundation (really enjoyed this one, especially the Cleon clones storyline)
Andor (not a big Star Wars guy, but I really liked this series)

Is Andromeda worth watching? What else is out there?
Thanks in advance!

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[–] oehm@midwest.social 25 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Is The Expanse worth it? Thinking of starting that after strange new worlds.

[–] maino82@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The expanse is great! Highly recommend it, and the books are even better.

[–] socprof@masto.ai 8 points 1 year ago

@maino82 @oehm Agreed. The show because of Shohreh Aghdashloo, whose casting was a stroke of genius. And the books because it's a great story. Silo (on Apple TV) is also great. #ScienceFiction

[–] Mina@swiss-talk.net 4 points 1 year ago

@maino82

Slight disagreement: Books and series are both fantastic, and yet: There are a bunch of great #SciFi sagas and novels, but hard #SF as TV series on that level?

The series absolutely excels in its art form, the novels only shine very brightly in their, due to the much bigger competition.

@oehm

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

Oh boy you're in for a treat! The first season is my favorite one. Not very Trekky though, I get a vibe of Alien mixed with cyberpunk.

[–] QHC@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Another big vote for The Expanse. I always tell people to give the first season 3-4 episodes before judging. The main plot doesn't get started until around then and the full cast isn't even fully introduced after the first episode (IIRC). It's one of those shows that doesn't make it easy early on, but rewards those who stick through for the whole ride.

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

It’s very, very good. Every season is basically a different genre though - within the context of the setting.

The first is my favorite and is basically a noir/detective story.

Second is my least favorite and is basically a monster movie.

Third is political thriller and I fell in love with the show again, fourth is like a western/frontier story and fifth is a family drama.

The best thing about the Expanse is the world-building. A lot of attention to detail. Great characters too.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a huge fan of the first few seasons. When Amazon bought them I feel the quality really dropped (especially in the set pieces/visual effects) but the story is still good. A lot of people didn't care for the first season or Miller's character but I really enjoyed it.

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's wild to me when fans of the show disregard the first season. To me, that season is pretty much perfect. Three arcs - a detective story, a motley crew, a political thriller - pay off feels so great when it all comes together at the end. Season 2 was such a drastic change in pacing, concept and 'feel' that I didn't want to keep watching. I felt a little betrayed that Miller wasn't actually the main character.

Besides Amos, I don't really care about the Roci crew. I had to wait until Ashford came along in Season 3 for a new favorite character.

All in all - Avasarala, Bobby and Drummer carried the series for me.

[–] tulwinn@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s interesting that you felt betrayed by Miller not being the main character. In the book his chapters are a good example of unreliable narrator.

He comes across as a good guy and a good cop. It’s only later you realise he is unpopular which is why he was dumped with the Earther and his reputation as a drunk earned him an investigation they wanted done poorly.

Maybe the show got a similar result to the book in a different way.

I liked him too though and was gutted by his fate.

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[–] tobimai@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

Yes. IMO the best SciFi Series

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes, the Expanse is wonderful ... I miss it TBH. As "blasphemous" as it might be here, I'd be more excited for a new Expanse series than new a Trek series.

You may have heard already, but give the show 3-4 episodes before you give up on it.

I was told this and I recall a specific moment even where I felt myself switch from, "this is fine" to "ok I like this". May not be that way for everyone, but give it 3-4 episodes.

Also, and others have said this, each season is different with a different vibe, however that alters your viewing.

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In a word, yes. In three words oh fuck yes.

[–] psistarpsiii@tacobelllabs.net 3 points 1 year ago

@oehm @pinwurm some of the best sci-fi I’ve ever seen! I didn’t totally connect and buy in for the first few episodes, but after that? Incredible.

[–] Elomon@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great series except for the first season. I nearly gave up many times until it really picked up in S2 and became a classic.

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[–] original_reader@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

You don't watch other shows. You start over with Star Trek.

😁

[–] DCimpulse@geddit.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm gonna throw this in here since no one has mentioned it —

Dark Matter

A fun SyFy show that was cancelled way too early and run by Joseph Mallozi who contributed to SG-1 and SG: Atlantis.

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm always worried watching stuff that's cancelled too early. Does it end in a decent place?

@pinwurm @DCimpulse

Unfortunately it ends with an unresolved cliffhanger. Although I feel like they dropped enough hints that you could kind of imagine how the next season would go.

Don't let that stop you. The show sputters here and there, but the story is intriguing. Anyone that complains has clearly never seen seasons 1 & 2 of ST:TNG, and Dark Matter's entire run is only 39 eps.

And with all due respect to Brent Spiner, Zoie Palmer as the android is *fantastic*.

[–] DCimpulse@geddit.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll be honest. Where it ended, I was pretty pissed that I wasn't going to get a resolution.

But, am I still glad I watched it? Absolutely.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Altered Carbon (Netflix). This is what Blade Runner 2 should have been in terms of cinematography and story telling. First season especially is great.

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have mixed feelings on AC. I really loved the first season. Beautiful cinematography, amazing acting (Joel Kinnaman is incredible), great concept and plot. Pacing could’ve been a little better, but it really evoked that Blade Runner vibe in a cool way.

Season 2 didn’t really resonate with me :/ Felt like a cheap Marvel movie.

[–] Madison_rogue@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I did enjoy both seasons, however Season 1 is definitely better written than Season 2.

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Took me a bit to get into Star Trek: Lower Decks but I recommend it to any star Trek fan!

[–] fades@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How you gonna mention star gate SG1 but not mention Stargate Atlantis?!?!

[–] smfx@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Also Stargate Universe - it is a shame that it was cancelled after only two series, as it was getting quite good

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

For All Mankind is by the same writer as ds9/bsg and is pretty entertaining. There's some bad personal drama, but the space and alternative timeline stuff is good.

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It didn't exist at the time this was posted, but this is the kind of content that would fit right in at our new community, !quarks@startrek.website .

[–] Madison_rogue@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Earth Final Conflict is also an interesting series. It was developed by Roddenberry, and produced by Majel Barret. I enjoyed watching it when it was in syndication.

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[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You've got SG-1 but not Stargate Atlantis, so add that in, it's just about as good as SG-1. (not Stargate Universe, though, that one's bad.)

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There it is, Stargate SG-1

Damn that show starts off slow - most people can't get past season one. But holy heck does it have an amazing team writing the plots. I thoroughly enjoyed that show. And it's so underrated. I know I never watched it much when it was on air weekly with new episodes

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[–] ricecooker@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've watched and can recommend X-Files, Fringe, Warehouse 13, Eureka, Mrs. Smith, and Station Eleven.

These are some that people have recommended that seem interesting, but have not watched yet: Orphan Black, Killjoys, Humans, The 100, Dark Matter.

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for these recommendations! I actually never watched X-Files, and a friend of mine binge watched all of it earlier this year and was sending me funny clips. I should add it to the list.

LOVED Station Eleven. It might be a top 5 show of all time. The first episode felt like a slog until that last minute. Partially ‘cause we were kinda living that pandemic.

But I was absolutely hooked and psyched to see more. And every episode after was “holy crap!” moments through to the very end.

Some of the best storytelling I’ve seen on TV. Really rich character development and such a beautiful concept altogether. It made me really hopeful.

Same writer/creator as The Leftovers (which I also recommend, very cool show - 3 seasons with an ending, gets progressively weirder and wilder).

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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Babylon 5 has an epic story, character development, and space battles.
"I have always been here." ~

[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

"Can not run out of time. There is infinite time. You are finite. Zathras is finite. This...is wrong tool... No... No, not good. No... Never use that."

[–] Bishma@social.fossware.space 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you like SG1 you should checkout Travelers on Netflix. It was created by one of the SG1 co-creators, Brad Write. The first 2 seasons are really good.

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't mention Travelers in my watched list because it's not very 'Star Treky', but I absolutely adored the series. It had some faults, but really clever writing, well thought-out characters, great acting, cool story. I still think about it. Did you not like Season 3? Enrico Colantoni was brilliant. Also loved him in Station Eleven.

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[–] electric@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Definitely watch the rest of the Stargate movies and then get into Atlantis. The Stargate series is very much Star Trek but with a more grounded premise. Yeah there are aliens out there, but the majority of the powers are not interested in getting along with these plucky Earthlings.

Also seconding the SyFy shows, especially Eureka and Dark Matter. Eureka is much more comedic and optimistic than the usual science fiction show. About 5 seasons and was given the chance to end properly. Dark Matter is, well, dark. Opposite of the Star Trek universe, but has great character arcs and plot lines. Absolutely worth watching the 3(?) seasons even if it ends on a cliff hangar.

[–] tobimai@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

Stargate. Especially the movies SG1 and Atlantis

[–] mrmacduggan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not seeing Doctor Who on your list yet! You could give that a shot. Many of the series have the world-of-the-week feeling.

[–] MooseGas@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I could not get into farscape or earth final conflict. I've always wanted to watch SG1, but I can't find anywhere to stream it now.

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