PeterTheAverage

joined 4 years ago
 

Survivable for whom, Matty? SURVIVABLE FOR WHOM?

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1556633968249901058

[–] PeterTheAverage@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I know Enough Sanders Spam on Reddit has a post on their sidebar "debunking" this stat, they claim it only comes from one survey/poll and that they have data proving otherwise.

 

Currently in an argument with a chud on Reddit that pulled the 100 million dead figure, and he doesn't believe that they're including dead Nazis and unborn descendants of dead people in that figure. I want to show him how ridiculous the figures are in that book is by calculating the victims of capitalism using the same flimsy logic.

He doesn't appear to be one of those "capitalism didn't kill anyone because how can two people exchanging goods be deadly" types that you sometimes see, as he's willing to attribute the Nazis to capitalism's death toll. He sent me this:

"You should check the democide concept developed by Prof. R. J. Rummel:

Rummel coined the term democide, defined as

"the murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder."

Obviously the definition excludes natural causes as you suggest. Democides were mostly exerted by communist regimes:

128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS

61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State

35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist China

20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State

10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime

19,178,000 VICTIMS: THE LESSER MEGA-MURDERERS

5,964,000 Murdered: Japan's Savage Military

2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State

1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey's Genocidal Purges

1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State

1,585,000 Murdered: Poland's Ethnic Cleansing

1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State

1,072,000 Murdered: Tito's Slaughterhouse"

Actually looking it up, even the black book of communism has the Soviets at 20 million murdered so I have no idea where he's getting 62 million dead.