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Temporary lull, only

I can agree with that.

One of the reasons we (in the USA) are in this mess is the collapse of community structures, both along ethnic and general lines. What I witnessed decades ago, with grassroots and community outreach, is not possible today due to how many times people have moved, changed careers and adapted to new technology ( the USA in the last two generations had more change than Europe in the first industrial revolution, by many metrics, and after such changes it takes time). Its why local politics is often not talked about.

So anything that is community building, is good, and a step toward better lives later. And I totally support that, in whatever form

I agree with your sentiment and feelings.

But unless there is good governance, or a plan to create good governance, it’s not political here, only common sense in what you are saying.

Politics means changing the current governance, which these movements cannot because they are too kind, gentle and naive. Activists I talked to in the last few years, people of different backgrounds seem to have an amazing trait of speaking true to their causes yet have a childlike faith in the very people who oppress them to run fair elections in many states. Or absent that, a failure to speak on that publicly.

One cannot do politics by voting unless there are accurate ballot counts that pass United Nations standards

And I think those living in the states which do have real democracy are affected by those which are not.

Until then, I think it’s good that people are banding together as more of a community; just don’t call it effective politics in the level of national or many states

are often instigated and initiated by small groups of passionate people who are genuine in their desire for a better world.

These people have either a working democratic system already, a plan to force that to change, or the ability for organized violence.

The main problem with this sort of movement, and indeed most of the liberal USA online political community is that none of those apply.

Some are getting enthusiastic, but if you look at the past decades: one realizes that it’s the same small group/ type of people being motivated and excited again and again, with zero effect seen years later.

The federal government and many states are not democracies; any strategy that assumes this will not work. Any movement that will not fix bad voting systems will fail.

They are not

Years from now ( think tens of millions) paleontologists of some species will wonder about this age, and think that this was great extinction caused by a period of volcanic instability; with monkeys and some mammals overrepresented in the fossil record

There is still a lot of violent potential in all this population, it just needs to be nurtured by a working grassroots movement. And that is broken. Just like you can drive a car with a working motor, that has a busted axle; you cannot lead violent people to do things if there is no place to hook up or meet in person.

This applies to the people who oppose you as much as you, and I mean anyone. So, the current situation is sort of a stabilizing force at the moment

The population has been made isolated at the community level. There are very few local groups doing any reaction at all to this.

And violent reactions which are successful are a group action; it’s very seldom an individual, in any era of history, changed the politics by themselves.

And as long as there are no impromptu gatherings of significant frequency, there will be very little violence.

The internet is not a replacement for community driven change which powers all social and political movements, peaceful or not.

The turning point, if there is one, will be lots of local meetings by the thousands , and not until then. No matter how violent or passive the individuals be

It’s a knee jerk reaction for many to want polls to still matter. Polls are important of course, but not this year and next year is uncharted territory.

The only thing to do watch now is the comfort zone of the 10,000+ people in the American billionaire families; and that is the only check in power right now

No real leaders to rally about, anywhere, that I know about. Just a slow decline into increased corruption

Back in my day, there were no guides; except for books that had to be bought or borrowed, one learned by hacking code until it worked or, better yet, had a helpful person in the same room give tips.

After the internet came into being, there started to be guides, at first many were ok. Then people realized they could write slop and make money or get internet points or credit. So now here we are, today, with many horrible tutorials, some middling, some good ones, about to be buried by AI