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Summary

Former federal prosecutor Sara Levine, fired by Trump, warned on 60 Minutes that the Justice Department is "under attack."

Levine, who prosecuted January 6 rioters, said she was fired for upholding the law.

Legal expert Peter Keisler criticized Trump's pardons of Capitol rioters, arguing they signal that crimes committed in support of Trump's agenda may go unpunished.

These actions undermine the rule of law and discouraging accountability for political violence.

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[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 42 points 5 hours ago

I need more than Half the states to declare that Trump is a national emergency, and then set legislation to limit all Federal Authority in state level Justice Matters AND mark federal government actions, laws, and executive orders as null/void or something like that. We have to take power away from the Federal Government if it can’t be checked and balanced.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 72 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Legal expert Peter Keisler criticized Trump's pardons of Capitol rioters, arguing they signal that crimes committed in support of Trump's agenda may go unpunished.

Um, isn't that the main point why Trump did it?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 42 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

It's like the entire liberal world has been conditioned to act like the things that are very obviously happening may happen ... not right now though ... at some future unknown date ... so you don't need to worry about it really. Don't rock the boat and certainly don't miss work tomorrow... just continue consuming and hold tight while someone else presumably sorts it out.

It's like a civilization-wide bystander effect.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago

Always have been:

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

This is what pisses me off about all the people who kept talking about how the Democrats were failing to get voters engaged in 2024.

If the Dems weren't doing the job, what was keeping you from stepping up?

Its like there was a fire going on and people were complaining the firemen weren't doing enough instead of jumping in and helping.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

My analogy is that it was like someone threw a molotov cocktail through your window, but you let the house burn down because the window didn't stop the bottle.

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not a politician. I developed an entirely different set of skills. Throwing away my career at the potential of reskilling is absurd.

And Dems weren't doing their job. I'm tired of people pretending like that's acceptable. I canvass. I get people ready to vote. I do my part.

I can't even tell you the last time a Dem policy benefitted me directly. What I have in common with them really just boils down to them being the only opposition right now. I pushed Harris like we had to and I'll never forgive them for running such an unlovable candidate. They knew what they were doing. The second there's another serious option I'm gone. Dems complete lack of opposition makes them complicit in everything that's happening.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

AOC and Omar have entered the chat.

If you don't like the Dems that are in power now, you can primary them. If we get another election.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 55 minutes ago

Lmao if you get a primary. Trump wasnt the one who took that away from you last time, and he wasnt the one who screwed over bernie before that. Good job pointing to the two token progressives as if that doesnt prove the other guy's point.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The Harris campaign spent a billion and a half dollars on "getting voters engaged" and she still lost anyway. All the phone-banking and door-knocking in the world can't overcome the fundamental problem of refusing to adopt policies the people actually want!

So please, explain to me exactly what the fuck kind of "stepping up" you expect randos from the Internet, who had no ability to affect the campaign's platform, to actually fucking do?!

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Idk, maybe voting against the dude who straight up said he would be a dictator and you'd never vote again?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

That wasn't enough for the grandparent commenter, who was trying to shame people for not getting other people to vote too.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Probably the part where I didn't receive over a billion dollars in donations to actually get media attention. A lot of people have been campaigning to get people to ditch the Democrats because they're controlled corporate stooges for the last few decades, I think you were shouting at them for supporting third parties at the time.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Read up on how Hitler took power in the first place.

A lot of people hated him, but they hated other politicians more and decided that letting him have a go at it wouldn't be a bad thing.

If you thought a third party was going to come to the rescue in 2024 you have my abject sympathy.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago

A third party had no chance of coming to the rescue in 2024 because everyone has attacked third parties in the U.S. for at least the three decades I've been alive, and I'm pretty sure for another few decades before that.

Also, you're conveniently ignoring the economic conditions of the Weimar Republic that made the rise of Nazism in Germany an inevitability. Just like all the libs ignoring the economic conditions in the U.S. that led to the rise of Trumpism.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And they should have been shouted at. The current system does not allow for third party viability as disappointing as that is.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Uh-huh, and how is constantly voting for the lesser evil going for you? What did you seriously expect to happen? We'd just keep slipping towards fascism but never actually reach it?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 17 minutes ago

You and people like you are the problem, and you're blaming the people who are being directly affected by the poor decisions you yourself are choosing to make.

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Is it the lesser evil if it's on the same team as the greater evil?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

BoTh siDes ARe thE Same?

How is that working out for you?

[–] credo@lemmy.world -2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I realize people have difficulty parsing language sometimes, but she did not say “may signal” she said “signals”. She said he is doing exactly what you both are saying he is doing. Basically: You appear to be in violent agreement with her.

The “may” only comes in that if you commit acts of treason, etc. on behalf of dear leader, you may or may not show up on his radar.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I realize people have difficulty parsing language sometimes, but she did not say “may signal” she said “signals”. She said he is doing exactly what you both are saying he is doing. Basically: You appear to be in violent agreement with her.

"Glass houses," buddy. Check the sentence again:

Legal expert Peter Keisler criticized Trump’s pardons of Capitol rioters, arguing they signal that crimes committed in support of Trump’s agenda may go unpunished.

The future/hypothetical part of it that the person you replied to was complaining about wasn't the "signals" part, it was the "may go unpunished" part. In other words, the legal expert in question isn't in denial of what Trump's pardons "signal;" he (not "she," BTW -- you misread that, too) is in denial of the fact that the effect being signaled is already currently happening.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Someone's gonna be killed by one of these J6 yoyos. Could be a SC justice after a ruling that goes against Trump, could be one of those key people from the last administration that Trump quite openly dropped security details for.

Will Trump go the extra mile and pardon them? Will his party full of Christian Conservatives ignore their God's commandment "Thou Shall Not Kill" when the victim is a political opponent who they don't like? Of course they will.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At least three of them have already been re-arrested for other crimes.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

One was killed by the cops, too

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

To be fair, that may be one of the ones I was thinking of.

[–] alykanas@slrpnk.net 12 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Lots of warnings and recommendations to be scared.

Very few saying what to do.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 30 minutes ago

The clear thing was "vote for Harris". It was just that a lot of people wanted to punish Democrats for the Palestinian genocide.

[–] coaxil@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

As someone watching in from another country, you guys really need to do a violence about now IMHO, its the only action left that will do anything

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The only way to take on a bully is to bloody his nose.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

French would argue that the guillotine is the more civilized way to do it… 

[–] daepicgamerbro69@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago

I never deliver a blunt warning cuz I always pass that shit after two puffs.