[-] liwott@nerdica.net 1 points 8 months ago

The one example I was commenting about is the tyre example. They sold more tyres to women after dropping the sexy girl on the ad. How much of a stretch is it to assume that these women were not the sexy ad's target audience because women used to be less (socially allowed to get) interested in cars?

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 1 points 8 months ago

Ok I realise that I did not put the previous comment in the friendliest form, sorry about that !

Your point is that the marketing choice of using beautiful women is dictated by the sellers' preferences rather that the buyers' one. In the apparent absence of evidence to support either hypothesis, you are willing to favor the former one.

What I haven't said explicitly yet is that there is one argument that makes me find the latter one more likely in the absence of further evidence : the businesses that make their marketing choices based on customers' preferences will tend to survive more. kn our capitalist society, it makes sense to me.

You gave one counter-example that is not strong enough to change my opinion as it can also be explained with the firm having poorly evaluated what their target audience was. They do say in the article that more women started buying tyres after the marketing change, which is indeed not the audience targeted with the sexy-girl ad.

It does however a good job at disproving the affirmation "because everyone regardless of gender and age are biologically conditioned to look at them." to which you were originally replying, and I disagree with that affirmation as well. I just think your conclusion goes too far i the other direction, in the absence of further evidence.

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 1 points 8 months ago

It's the salesmen who want the stall staffed with models, not the customers.

Could you link the evidence-base of this though?

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 16 points 8 months ago

Do they? The linked blog's biography is written with masculine pronouns.

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 2 points 8 months ago

What marketing departments dominated by men think works is not the same thing as what actually works

In this case, isn't it because the market evolved faster than they could keep up with? Probably there was a time where most of their customers were "macho men", so these adds would work in marketing.

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This makes me think about the French "je m'en bats les couilles" (litt. "I beat my balls with it"). Some girls say it too, others say they beat their ovaries instead.

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 3 points 8 months ago

the comment that ‘upset’ me in the context you are asking is the one where the guy calls me butthurt for disagreeing with his opinion

This is not in the context they were asking though, this happened as a response to your rant.
What some of us would want to have is documented examples of what caused you to write this post.

In a comment you complained about nobody having "shared their experience in a meaningful way", but you haven't shared anything concrete either.

In the post you said:

I remember we could still have discussions about controversial topics without things getting ugly

Yet to me things do not seem to have gotten ugly when you expressed a very controversial opinion in the "taliban" post. This is were concrete examples would help understanding your point.

Some users did disrepect you about this issue in this post, and I definitely do not support that ! In the end, you are a teen getting bullied (probably by adults) for having an opinion, and this is wrong no matter how bad the opinion is.

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 0 points 8 months ago

there isn't really much else you can do

One could also do nothing. What are the insults supposed to achieve?

some people kinda deserve to be called names.

Are you arguing in favor of retributive "justice"? Isn't it exactly OP's shitty opinion that they get bullied for?

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 9 points 8 months ago

what each post produced was really high quality

I've only been participating in discussions on Lemmy groups for 3ish years, but I'm quite sure that never happened. There have always been good and bad posts, good and bad comments, civil and less civil users.

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 12 points 8 months ago

Strong interaction is really designed as a baryonic thing, leptons have no color charge (which is another way to say that they transform as SU(3) singlets). Leptons do not interact with gluons.
Not at tree-level anyway. See for example this list of vertices.

At loop levels, it's possible to imagine an electron decaying into neutrino+W, then W into two quarks who can then interact with gluons, but as it's down a couple of orders in perturbation theory so probably much too weak to hold a nucleus together. Not an expert in particle physics so I do not know with certainty whether a couple-of-loops interaction can have a measurable effect.

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 26 points 8 months ago

Electrons are not subject to the strong nuclear force that glues the protons neutrons together. This means that no attractive force would prevent electric repulsion to scatter a "electron nucleus".

From a field theory perspective, the strong nuclear force is a SU(3) gauge interaction and the electron field transforms as a singlet under that SU(3)

[-] liwott@nerdica.net 1 points 8 months ago

Following the title, I forgot the little ones, so in total we have
- 3 to 4 years of maternal school (2,5 - 6 years old). Traditionnally only the last one was mandatory but this is currently changing so I don't know whether or not the whole of it is already mandatory for everyone
- 6 years of primary school (6-12 years old)
- 6 years of secondary school (12-18 years old)

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From the UI that pretty much copies Reddit's in the regard, it would seem that yes. However, the votes are actually not secret. Maybe they were when they were local, but now they are transmitted to the federated instances. From other platforms, like Friendica, one can actually see the votes as (dis)likes. I can see your votes.

Because of Lemmy's UI, it is very easy to believe that the votes are secret, and many users probably assume they are. For example, I am quite sure the ones who use an alt from another instance to double-downvote do make that assumption. I think this fact should be disclosed in a clear way, at least in the instances' sidebar, if not in a banner.

From there on, I see two possibilities:

  • embrace that the votes are not secret, and allow Lemmy user to optionally see them
  • make the votes actually secret

As a Friendica user, who is used to like as a public appreciation mark, I am naturally in favor of the first option, but that is only my personal preference.

If the second one is preferred, it means that the other admins should never receive the voters' identities. One should not trust the other admins to just not display them. In fact, I think "never trust the remote admin" should be an important rule in the fediverse, an instance should generally protect its own users rather than expecting others to do it in its stead.

In that case, I think it would be appropriate that "Vote" should be an disctinct activity from "Like", and in particular one that cannot be federated with the authors name. Maybe it could be a private thing sent to the Group, who in turn sends a IsVoted activity? This is pure fantasy, I am not qualified to suggest an actual implementation, I just think it should be distinguished from other platforms' public likes.

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