No offense but you’ve lost track of this conversation, and I don’t like playing word games. You lost the argument so now you want to talk about trans rights (???) despite the fact that we almost certainly agree about that.

A minute ago you were defending men’s rights. Now you want to have a philosophical discussion about the nature of gender? I’m happy to have that conversation, and I doubt we ultimately disagree, but why? What possible bearing does it have on our disagreement over whether “nobody cares about men’s issues?” When in fact as far as I can tell our entire society is organized to help young men succeed.

Because men in prison, in numbers exponentially more than women, is a much bigger problem.

I agree, but other men disagree. They don’t care or consider that a problem at all. Have you met men?

You win. Men have lots of exclusively male problems because, uhh (checks notes), I refused to play your Shibboleth game about trans people.

Women who are now trans men weren’t always trans men, were they? Maybe they thought of themselves as women for a long time before changing their mind.

What a bizarre argument to have in a thread showcasing your lack of understanding for the kind of things men actually care about and politics in general.

I looked at your image. Let’s say the drug war affects men more than women by imprisoning them. I’ll give you that one. Unfortunately, most men don’t care about this issue. In fact they would probably approve.

Here’s a related one: prison rape. It’s a serious problem that affects more men than women. Unfortunately, men don’t care about this issue either. If we talked about it we’d lose the election even worse.

Another male exclusive problem: online radicalization… the infamous alt-right pipeline. This odious trend has reduced male college attendance and made my fellow American men even stupider than they otherwise would be.

Another exclusively male problem: dating culture disparity. Men are expected to pay for dates despite nearly equivalent earning potential.

Why didn’t you mention any of that? Instead you’re focused on the one in a million women who are now trans men who are giving birth (???)

I agree with you in principle but organized cults are fucking terrifying. In fact it is exactly when governments form around these cults that they become truly horrific and unstoppable.

“The drug war” is not a male-exclusive problem. That would be like saying that because men are responsible for perpetrating 99% of violent crime, violence is an exclusively male problem. Notice I didn’t say that.

Also, are you sure you want me to add “trans male pregnancy” to the list of male problems? Are you quite sure this is something your fellow men feel strongly about? Don’t be dishonest, please.

So to be clear, one of the main issues that men in this country face that women do not face is that “their mental health issues are ignored”?

Who is “ignoring” these mental health issues? There’s no systematic lack of access that needs to be legislated, correct? I had absolutely zero problem getting therapy as a man. It’s a toxic masculinity thing of men themselves being unwilling to see a therapist. Correct?

So your claim is that “mental health issues” are an exclusively male problem? Because again, the problems I listed for women affect them exclusively.

So do you see what the problem is here?

EDIT: people that downvote this benign comment are proving me right. Braindead.

Daily reminder that religion is a monstrous evil.