This is not my personal opinion, I know Gen Z men who voted for Harris. But the voter demographics really speak for themselves, and maybe now people will look at the radicalization of young men as a serious (but solvable) issue.
Alienation caused by economics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_alienation
Fascists have a message for them, the liberals don't because they are committed to the current economic and political system
the Democrats will just pander to this by getting an endorsement in 2028 from Andrew Tate.
My friend, do not speak this into existence ðŸ˜
Lmao there won't be elections in 2028.
it's either being that or a concubine, gen z was the after millennial hope that died
As a zoomer that's old enough to be working class now. Man, my childhood was fucked. At school, being a right wing troll was the norm, at least for boys. I was too.
The worst part is no-one cared, fucking "they'll grow out of it" and now everyone is suddenly in shock. When I talk about it to my friend today he's even in fucking denial about it, "Oh they didn't actually mean that, it was all jokes".
And our education system doesn't do anything to combat this shit either. Quite the opposite, the dogmatic authoritarian approach schools take coupled with zero-tolerance policies pretty much ensures people shouting this hateful shit get away with it.
After all saying "Hitler did nothing wrong" only gets annoyed looks, gets completely brushed off as "edgy" or something. But then when someone points out that person's shit, suddenly that's an attack???
"Oh they didn't actually mean that, it was all jokes".
Because those were jokes.
The problem we have today is not that it was socially acceptable to be a psychopath online in 2014. The problems are, in my opinion:
The right-wing shift is part of a global failure of established governments.
The right-wing shift is part of a global failure of established governments.
Yes! Thank you.
Just as the next left-wing shift won't be a result of humanity getting smarter somehow, it will be a result of right-wing policies failing. And that shift won't lead to any improvement either.
It's a pendulum.
People are willing to tolerate a failing system longer, when it aligns on surface with their own views. This is similar to people on the right defending Pinochet and death squadrons.
And people on the left 20 years ago would defend a lot of things about USSR or Che Gevara or stuff like this, even not being tankies.
Tribalism leads to degeneracy.
Get that logical crap out of here!!
The worst part is no-one cared, fucking "they'll grow out of it" and now everyone is suddenly in shock. When I talk about it to my friend today he's even in fucking denial about it, "Oh they didn't actually mean that, it was all jokes".
Most edgy teens do grow out of it. I roll my eyes at embarrassment at some of the stuff I wrote in college, and high school me was even stupider.
But one difference in my high school years (in the 90's), edginess wasn't inherently politically coded. Some of it was racist, sexist, or homophobic, but plenty of the targets were also Republican constituencies: rural/small town people, Christians, fat people, old people, prudes, etc. In a conservative suburban area, jokes about abortion, sex, drugs, etc. were often designed to elicit shock and disgust.
I think we've seen a cultural shift in which edginess is seen as right wing in itself, in part because the right, which used to get offended at things like Harry Potter and Howard Stern and Disney movies, has fallen in line with edgy Gen X comedians who somehow didn't grow out of it, and made room for people who smoke weed and mock the Bible.
in the 90s you attacked whatever was around cause you were a piece of shit, now you got the internet so pieces of shit worldwide can band together and hate a specific cause.
I hate my gender so fucking much. If every man in the US dropped dead on the 4th the world would be a better place.
45% of Gen Z men still voted Harris, there's tonnes of you that aren't alt-right.
Instead of dropping dead, it's time you guys started reclaiming what it means to be a "man". It's not like shitty women don't exist, but most women band together in times of need/stress. Men need to start doing that too.
Band together and do what? All the like minded dudes I know are in the same boat as me. We're collectively fucked. We meme about in discord but nobody has any solutions.
Unfortunately that will never happen. I honestly don't think we are capable of thar. I lay in bed and wonder if I am just kidding myself in thinking I am liberal while deep down I am just another fascist.
Again, you are dismissing 45% of your brothers. People like you, people who probably think the same negative things as you about themselves.
Unironically young men need positive solidarity from each other. You are not biologically designed to be fascist. You're lonely and self-hating by social engineering. And the more you believe that social engineering, the more the toxic men win.
We don't have time for that.
Being a man doesn't automatically make you a fascist, that's misandrist talk. I am a man, voted for Harris, and I'm very disappointed in our nation, our DNC, and a good amount of the world now. Focus on making changes locally, start as local as possible (home) and then expand outwards (the neighborhood, city government, county government, etc).
It sounds kinda silly, but there's truth in that if you can't make improvements in your own bedroom like cleaning up wires or making sure there are no clothes on the ground, this will impact other areas of your life.
I'm here for you!
You're taking this way too hard, man. If every man in the US dropped dead, Trump would still be president. White women voted 53% in favor of Trump. https://apnews.com/article/ap-votecast-trump-harris-election-president-voters-86225516e8424431ab1d19e57a74f198
Cite data
"Harris has a significant lead among young registered voters in the NBC News Stay Tuned Gen Z Poll powered by SurveyMonkey. But a yawning gender gap is dividing Gen Z."
That being said, we all know how inaccurate polls can be sometimes.
The main source of this recent trending fascism, anti-scientific thinking and so on is social media or the web in general. To resist or refute the mass of false information and find out what's likely true and what's not, requires education, literacy, media competency, things like that. I guess current generations are lacking this so they fall easy prey to "funny" fascist memes, fakes and rhetoric, then vote for rightwing extremists, destabilizing their own country as a result, not realizing that this leads to big disadvantages for everyone including themselves. We failed to protect these younger generations from misinformation, and now they are turning the world into what they are misled to believe is true.
We used to have relatively high living standards in the Western democracies. This will soon all crumble and we (most people who aren't rich) will suffer from it, regardless of who you voted for. And on top of that, climate change will finish us all off, because battling that isn't even on the radar for those fascists because they don't even believe in it. So instead of doing too little, we'll do literally zero and even accelerate the problem, meaning it'll affect us all much sooner already and with higher intensity.
So enjoy your still existing relatively privileged life while it still lasts. It's ging to get much, MUCH worse before it's going to be better again. Buckle up and prepare yourselves.
With the levels of anti-intellectualism, it's also quite hard.
You write more that 3 lines? You used a "buzzword"? Congratulations, your refutation won't be read, but will met with ridicule!
My mother's boyfriend often "reads" articles from more liberal-leaning news sources, and he just laughs at the buzzwords. Cannot tell what the articles were about.
A buzzword being one with three syllables or more, I presume?
(Syllables are probably woke nowadays)
Lemmy wonders... But what about the menzzzz?!?!?!
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