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Proton is the Future of PC gaming. But how does it work? [Gardiner Bryant, YouTube] (youtu.be)
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Video description:

It’s clear there are some people who don’t understand Proton. So let’s talk about it. #Proton #SteamPlay #CompatibilityLayer

00:00 Introduction
00:41 The basics of a computer
01:46 What Proton is not
03:04 What is an emulator
04:32 Proton acts like a map
05:25 Proton translates API and system calls
06:18 Proton provides a Windows-like software environment
06:55 Why are some games incompatible?
08:52 Shouldn't we demand native Linux games?
11:07 Conclusion
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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If games go linux native, how long until Microsoft gets wsl working for games?

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean to play Linux games through WSL? Well, Microsoft doesn't have any reason to, as all games are available for Windows. Or do you suggest the Frankenstein's Gaming playing Linux games with Proton through WSL on Windows? That would be truly marvelous. xD

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, I meant what I said.

If games do become linux exclusives, microsoft will have a reason

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Ah, you mean in a future where Linux overtakes Windows as the primary gaming machine. But hard to believe this will become true in the near future. Especially if we talk about commercial games to abandon Windows. I would like to see such a feature, but doubt it would happen in my lifetime honestly (i'm no longer young BTW). In such a scenario, Microsoft probably would start supporting games with WSL, if they don't have a different strategy.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they care anymore. Their money makers are Azure and M365 at this point, and the OS is just getting ignored (except where they can make more money/data)

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

winget and the windows store are growing tho

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Windows store apps are their own special pain in the ass for other reasons (patching on multi-user systems, as it installs apps to the user profile for some godforsaken reason)

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 5 points 2 months ago

doubt it would happen in my lifetime honestly

We're at least 28 years into 'Totally year of the Linux desktop!', so I must say I'm afraid your right.

This has been a shockingly long-tail of inertia, and if people haven't started moving by now I can't see what exactly would suddenly cause people to decide to learn a new OS - which is a huge time investment - and all new software.

Maybe if Nadella starts breaking into people's houses and wrecking up the place?

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I could see them abandoning Windows as it is and instead making their own Linux distro, maybe in like the year 2100 lol

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

2100? Lol https://www.zdnet.com/article/say-hi-to-microsofts-own-linux-cbl-mariner/

Azure server etc running on linux too...

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Now we just need to wait for Microsoft to ditch Windows lol

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

If it helps you understand, yes. I am not so sure microsoft has no chance. I see a lot of youngers gamers, ones not as competent or careful, using just whatever is available to install games.

The windows store is very accessible

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

There’s really nothing preventing that now. Used to be you just forwarded X (mobaXterm is great); looks like there’s an MS offering now.

As for Linux-exclusive games, there are some (eg this publisher) but really only because no one has bothered to make a Windows port. tbh you could probably get them running on macOS without much trouble because the toolchain’s all the same.