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Trump Breaks Down Onstage | At a campaign event last night, Trump got bored—and weirdness ensued.
(www.theatlantic.com)
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Context:
Trump called for Ava Maria to be played after a medical emergency put it on pause for about five minutes an hour into the event. He then took another question. Just a few minutes later, there was another medical emergency. Apparently it was a bit hot in the event space. It went off the rails soon after that as he called for the doors to be opened and wanting to play more music to end the event.
At one point he stops to ask if they want to do one more question. Although the crowd cheers and he says we'll do one more, he called for YMCA to be played.
Certainly an odd presidential town hall but definitely not the worst thing this guy has done and in no way did he "break down". Honestly, between the lies and threats to other humans, this might be the most human I've ever seen him. It's really sad to see how delusional these people are.
Here's the stream from PBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FhvhdVSZE
My favorite part was when they played James Brown's "This is a Man's World". Clearly, they haven't listened to the song LOL
Edit: Here's another story from ABC News - Trump's bizarre music session reignites questions about his mental acuity
His choice to play music is debatable. Having watched the video, it didn't seem odd to me that he made these choices. There was absolutely nothing in this town hall to indicate an issue with his mental acuity that has not already been known. He has always been an idiot. This is not news.
Clooney put a hit out on Biden for much less.
But the point is to report on this in the hopes that the American people will pay attention. I can only speculate why you want to keep a lid on it...
Ugh worst Batman
Val tho… beautiful.
Clooney was an excellent Bruce though.
But yeah. Kilmer and Conroy are the only actors who have managed to do justice to both. Greenwood and Oswald have given amazing performances but really can only do one half.
I’m such a slut for Batman Forever… cheesy fun amazing movie where my beautiful Val and Jim KILLED IT
also my brain randomly just thinks “BLAAAST HIIIM” and “WHYYY WON’T YOU DIIIIIIE?!”
Forever retroactively got shit on because of And Robin and later the Nolan movies. I think it was very flawed but it was a perfect movie for the TAS era in terms of tone.
That said, what makes me laugh the most are the people who pretend the friggin Burton Batmans are deeply dark and serious. They were camp as all hell and fun for it.
I think we're at a boy who cries wolf point. News pieces like this are almost a daily occurrence. Those who don't care won't simply because it happens again. If anything it will further galvanize their resistance.
There's a sense that these things must be reported and recorded for reasons of history, but for whatever effect one would like to happen as a result it is probably useless.
They are a daily occurrence because there is finally corporate pushback against the sanewashing that has occurred for years.
But hey. Nobody should talk about how mentally unstable a candidate is, right? I really hope you are getting paid for this.
I've been hearing it for over 8 years now, to varrying degrees of intensity across the media spectrum. I'd assume anyone else paying even the least amount of attention has, too.
Yet here we are at a 48% split with 3 weeks to go.
So yeah, keep reporting. Maybe that fraction of a percent will make the difference; it's close enough that it could! But don't hold your breath, and don't keep beating on the same horse as if doing so will make a difference.
You should be ashamed of yourself
Brilliant being combative with strangers in the same echo chamber as you. Glad we spent this time together.
Pay attention to what?? The stuff we’ve all lived through for the last ~~five~~ ten years??
This report is bullshit. It’s an illustration of the demise of the media and real journalism. It’s misinformation to solidify a narrative.
I know. Most people don’t care about policy - most notability DT. I understand that clicks aren’t gained through real journalism. This is exactly how we ended up with this dickhole to begin with. Every media outlet flooded their blocks with every minute story they could drum up about Trump. This left little time to cover any other alternative candidate. Everyone is obsessed with loving or hating this guy. WTF are we doing? No one is changing their mind about him at this point. How, I don’t know. How the fuck any living human could possibly consider this shitstain for anything more than a janitor is beyond me.
The point is that these stories are misleading. It doesn’t matter what you think about the person or the outlet doing the reporting. We should be more critical of the truth and the mistruths we’re being fed. Had anyone successfully made this argument in 2015, perhaps we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
We ended up with this monster because news outlets were actively protecting him because he was good for ratings.
The sanewashing is finally coming to an end and people who don't follow politics will hear about this.
But that is apparently bad in your eyes. Well, we can probably guess who's eyes but...
As for nobody changing their minds? Multiple republicans openly support Kamala. The fucking KKK put in for.. jill Stein. Minds are changing. So stop actively fighting against sanity.
When polls are indicating that half of the United States of America are planning to vote for - THIS GUY - I don't think minds are changing at all.
I would respectfully submit that you also are suffering from delusions.
How dare you accuse GP of delusions! Unless you're one of the........
God SNL is going to feast this weekend
As much as I would love to believe that this is evidence of Trump in the throes of cognitive decline, I have to agree. Him standing there and doing nothing for 30 minutes is certainly low energy and cringe-worthy, but it isn't indicative of any kind of mental breakdown and the media and pundits are latching onto this too hard. The dishonestly on display is a little saddening, to be honest. There's plenty of things to hate Trump for without having to make up shit about his mental acuity.
Well, we've tried convicting him with felonies and playing actual tape of him describing rape, which he is guilty of, and no one seemed particularly swayed. So, facts and evidence seem to be out. If it takes a more abstract, personal approach to break the spell he holds half the voters in the country under, then so be it.
No. It's not we tried being honest about it so now we have to be dicks about it. It's that someone needs to care enough about all of this to reach these people where they are. Something is broken. You don't fix this by plugging it with bubble gum and hope it works.
Why are people not compelled to change their minds when there's overwhelming evidence that he is not a good person or someone who should lead this country? What in their minds is he doing for them?
I just had a family vacation where I found out most of my family intends to vote for him. How, I don't know, but they're not aware of how horrible he was as president or as a person. They're getting fake news from social media. All they care about is "the border" and gas prices. I told them it was Trump who, for personal reasons, killed the best bipartisan immigration bill this country has ever seen and that no president has ever had substantial control over gas prices. They had nothing to say in response. I don't know if they didn't know this already or if they just didn't want to hear it (probably both). All they know is that for the years that Trump was president, their wallets were fuller. Personally, I think everyone has forgotten how much government stimulus we all received and few of us are aware of the ramifications we're still experiencing from the pandemic. My take away was that a lot of people are not as invested in politics as you or I are. The information they come across is casual. They see a headline, assume it's fact, then scroll on to the next meme.
Moreover, there needs to be honest and sincere conversations. We've all assumed the role of debater where we're unable to concede a point or allow someone to have an opinion different than our own. The facts need to be transparent. The media needs to stop tainting the evidence. Calmer discussions need to be had.
For example: We should all make note that there is an immigration issue at our southern border and that we want to minimize all illegal alien activity. We should be having open discussions about how to resolve that issue. Some people want to shut the border down but they may be unaware that that's not legal to do. Some people believe this is a Democrat operation to get more voters but they may not be aware that a lot of Latin American immigrants are super conservative. Instead of allowing The Right to own this conversation, The Left should be pummeling this issue towards the proper direction. We should be demanding more spending at the border to get more judges. We need to increase the ease of people to come into the country, not lock them out, so they're more likely to do it the right way than the illegal way. And although the Biden administration was nearly successful in this, it wasn't reported enough to break through to The Right. This is what should have been plastered all over the media, not the already known fact of Trump's mental issues.
I'm seeing an overwhelming number of headlines specifically targeting "cognitive decline". The media is banking on this thread to sway voters to not elect him.
First - "the media" (any responsible outlet, at least) should never try to sway an election.
Second - the people finding these stories aren't going to be swayed to begin with.
Third - Trump has changed News as we know it. Outlets are more motivated by clicks than reporting. Outside a small handful of exceptions, fair and unbiased reporting no longer exists.
Fourth - The "left wing media" is doing the same thing Fox News was doing ten years ago: lying and misrepresenting the facts to fit a narrative. That narrative is needed to compel their audience to subscribe to their social media and newsletters and to repost articles on these forums to generate ad revenue.
The left and the right are both in their own delusions. I agree that those on the right, certainly the far right, are more dangerous to democracy and American values. The outcome of these delusions is different but the formula and the manipulation of the public is the same. The left (which I consider myself a part of), is the frog in the slowly boiling pot.
People need to be more rational and unbiased when reading the news. People need to call out these editors for misrepresenting the facts or making claims that are guesses at best.
I agree with you. This is weird and cringy and not presidential. THIS is the guy we want as Commander in Chief? Still, I could easily see this event happen at a mayoral town hall. I could absolutely see Tim Walz doing something like this. So, from the perspective of the cult that sits before him, I could easily understand them loving this seemingly intimate moment with their false god.
From the eyes of his followers, this event was a win for Trump. That's a perspective a responsible news outlet should consider - not 'how did this look from the staunch left' but how did this look from the desperate right.
The media needs to stop reassuring us this is an easy win for Harris. Stop preaching to the choir that the man is sick in the head (we have known this for ten years). They need to inform us how serious this election is and how devoted his followers are. They should be scaring us, with truthful reporting, to show up in numbers never seen in US history.
The responsible media needs to work on reaching the clueless believers. They need to gain the trust back from the public at large. Running headlines/stories like this is strengthening the distrust of the media.
Care to elucidate on who "these people" are?
Thank you for the context. I do agree this shines a different light on the proceedings ... However:
Might be an indication of the claims above?
If you're implying that he's breaking down and becoming human, I wouldn't go that far.