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More than 40 of the world's leading climate scientists have warned Northern European leaders of imminent disaster due to the collapse of key currents in the Atlantic Meridional Circulation (AMOC). (en.vedur.is)
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[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

but why don’t they ever advocate for a solution that seems obvious?

They do. All sorts of climate scientists have been telling us to cut emissions since the 1970s.

If we truly are heading towards a catastrophe, then that means we should reduce our energy expenditure massively, start scaling back unnecessary production, start actively scrubbing carbon, stop the deforestation for cattle farming, and so on.

As a person who directly works alongside liberal scientists, I can tell you with 100% certainty that this is also what the liberal scientists want. The problem with liberal scientists is not that they do not understand the science behind climate change, but they don't understand the politics behind it.

And you’re left there wondering “Wait a minute, but you’re driving the car, why don’t you just stop?”

Scientists are not driving the car. I am not saying that if they were, we would be living in utopia, but bourgeois politicians are big fans of ignoring the advice of scientists, except for when it suits them.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 3 weeks ago

All sorts of climate scientists have been telling us to cut emissions since the 1970s.

Saying "cut emissions" just doesn't cut it. They've been saying cut emissions for 50 years, yet emissions have only increased.

The problem with liberal scientists is not that they do not understand the science behind climate change, but they don’t understand the politics behind it.

Then they have no business writing open letters to politicians. You seem to think I disagree with the overall idea of global warming/climate change. I don't, I have trouble with scientists who write end of the world predictions with their right hand and passing the collection box with their left. How is that not considered grifting?

Just because what they're saying might be truthful, doesn't mean that they are telling the truth. Nobody is denying the climate is changing and it is getting warmer, but I don't think their doomsday predictions are true. Not even predictions, but "medium confidence in climate not collapsing".