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John Mearsheimer: "I won't vote for the Democrats because of the genocide in Gaza. I think the Biden administration is complicit in the genocide and genocide is a red line for me." (www.youtube.com)

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[–] Soul_Greatsword@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fair point. Such a change of course would likely mean less genocide (although the existence of nuclear weapons makes this somewhat less than guaranteed).

That said, a less secure Israel might lose a large chunk of it's population and industry. Many Israelis have dual citizenships that make leaving fairly easy. Israel as we know it could very well collapse.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel as we know it could very well collapse.

That's what my point was. I think there was difference in semantics between me and the lemmee user in regard to what we meant by collapse. But they tossed in the "hatred in neighbours" drivel so I decided it better to not engage faithfully.

[–] ormr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No I agree with you both. It seems very likely that such a collapse would then start to manifest. What do you think would be the long-term result of this?

[–] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We're talking about Isn'real losing all US support?

Without security guarantees, weapons and cash infusions, Isn'treal would be overwhelmed from the blowback of its own belligerence, and no longer able to expand.
The entire settler colonial project will have failed if Israel cannot expand to fulfill it's fake cultural manifest destiny.
The main political structure would collapse because all the political parties would be unable to fulfill their primary policy goals.
Internal and external pressure will eventually force the Free Real Estate clique to return a whole lot of stolen land, thus causing population decline and reduced exports / agriculture.
GDP will continue to shrink due to necessary concessions, BDS stuff, etc., which will trigger a reverse snowball effect of investment leaving the state.
Reprisals from Syria, Iran, Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq (and probably others) will be extremely costly, forcing the Zionist entity to double down on military and collapse under its own weight, or capitulate into slowly dismantling itself permanently from the land.
At some point in collapse, there is no purpose of nuclear escalation and we may see something similar to Warsaw Pact countries being denuclearized.

I see the entire Zionist state dissolving slowly or getting wiped out in a regional war. Either way, they cannot exist because the region will no longer tolerate them or allow their ideological goals.