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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 313 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (32 children)

Yeah, I'm giving up after this.

The Democratic party just can't deal with the stupidity and racism that is the American population.

I mean for fucks sake, Black and Latino voters increased their votes for Trump this time around.

Just time to hang up the hat and let America burn.

Also:

Biden got 81,282,916 votes

Harris got 66,153,556 votes

Americans didn't even bother to show up and now we have a Republicans in control of all three branches again. Yeah, there's no saving this democracy.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 118 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Don't forget they are going to intentionally force us back to coal and oil, and stifle all transitions to cleaner energy. So really how bad could it be

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, the world is pretty fucked here. We're at a tipping point for climate disaster.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, maybe this is what the cure is for humanity.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

The Oxygen Catastrophe wasn't a one-time poisoning. It was a series of oxygenation waves, killing themselves off only to rebuild and kill themselves off again. We were never cured of the oxygen polluters.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s going to be interesting when climate refugees start overwhelming the habitable regions (like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, and Wisconsin), driving housing costs even higher. People who think housing prices are high now will rudely awaken when the influx of people from the coastal regions – who have not only been displaced by climate disasters but have also lost their savings, and insurance will not bail them out – are competing for already limited affordable housing and local jobs.

But of course more drilling will totally fix that, right?

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Maybe a lot of Democrats also dislike women in power and black people. Maybe the American people, regardless of the party they say they support, are still very conservative. This is not an unpopular opinion outside the USA.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Yes. That is the ultimate conclusion for me as well. The American people voted for racism and sexism, because they are racist and sexist. America can’t do better because this is the best we have. Trump represents conservatives. It’s really confusing because his actions aren’t conservative… but here we are.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

This is the best we have

The best America can do is fucking awful. It's been this way for years. We elected Bush II twice. We elected Reagan twice. We elected Nixon twice. It's always been a shitty country filled with terrible people.

I'd like to say I'm glad other people are starting to realize something I've known for years, but people are going to get hurt because "patriotic liberals" didn't have the courage to admit we're the shithole country.

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[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah. Trump got fewer votes (when you account for the ~4% population growth since the 2020 election) than last time, while Dems lost a fuckton of votes, compared to 2020.

Trump won, both the election, and the popular vote, not because he got Dems to vote for him, but because a dozen million Dems decided not to vote at all.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are saying, in other words, that a black woman with indian ancestry and an exemplary career in the government was not enough incentive to go vote for self-perceived progressive people? That was actually my point.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] t_chalco@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Americans didn’t even bother to show up and now we have a Republicans in control of all three branches again.>

Absolutely. Trump did not have a significant bump in votes, 10 million voters did not turn out, or so early figures show. Of them, it's largely white suburban males. Apathy leads to populism. Dr. King had something to say about white liberals...

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Sure but at the same time Blacks and Latinos made significant bumps to the Trump vote here too. I would have to imagine that Dr. Kind would have some choice words for them too.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

When the plague of face-eating leopards arrives, I will be interested in the responses of the people who never thought their faces would get eaten

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that part of my immigrant family is this stupid. Thankfully, they can't vote fwiw. 🤷‍♂️

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Don't feel bad man, your family isn't you and you can't control when your family does something stupid. Heck my immigrant family that can vote was going on about not voting this year because of both sides bullshit and I had to talk them that yeah, you need to vote regardless. Not that it mattered because native born Americans are such a lost cause at this point.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My parents didn’t vote either. They’re also upset that they don’t have many choices because they’re independents. To them it doesn’t matter who the president is, to them it is inconsequential.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Then encourage them on reforms to get rid of First-past-the-post and they may get someone who is capable of thinking and breathing to vote for.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Today is a dark day. But, I will say this...

When the world gets dark, new lights often appear. It's a funny thing, but good people tend to be quiet and reserved. It's the anger of the patient person, and the good people pushed too far, that often can incite the most change. As Mr. Rogers' mother famously told him - look for the helpers when you see scary things unfold.

It's time for the helpers.

I hope everyone reading this understands what this means. We must help now. Don't look for the helpers, because we aren't children, as Fred Roger's once was...

Protect the people around you, especially the vulnerable and those at the most risk. Do it at the cost of your safety and well-being.

Cruelty has won a great battle today, but it can't win the war without a fight.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alright, give me some hope we can still prevent like >3°C global warming, cause I ain't having any hope left.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

We can't prevent that.

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tough times make tough people

Tough people make easy times.

Easy times make weak people.

Weak people make tough times. <--------We are here.

Tough times make Tough people <------ Your light of hope.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Tough times make Tough people <------ Your light of hope.

No, the tough times were 2020-2024 when the fallout of Trump policies raised the cost of living, helped erode women's rights to their own bodies, and encouraged corporate enshittification to go even more out of control.

It's now "tough times make bigoted people who scapegoat minorities," apparently.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Nobody said the tough times would end after just four years. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. The night has just begun, and it's time for the lantern bearers to find their lights.

I'm American. They can't have my country without a fight. I'll fight every ounce of their cruelty with kindness, and displace their xenophobia and racism with acceptance and support.

There are millions of us.

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I volunteered at county Dem HQ and was tasked with texting Dem voters who hadn't shown up at the polls by noon. Each page had maybe 50 names on it. And only 3 or 4 voters typically voted. It was a disaster.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe now the party will learn that guilting and harassing people doesn't work. If I get an unsolicited text from a campaign, it makes me significantly less likely to vote for that candidate. I'm not going to reward that sort of tactic.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So… what do you propose to do instead with respect to organizing?

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Encouraging the DNC to hold primaries and take their thumb off the scale would be a good start. Don't call me. Call them.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

In addition to what you said, I wonder how Biden and then Harris deciddd to become the nominee. What the methodology was. The dems could have hired a psychologist who could have guided them on the kind of candidate that would have won the American people over. They could have hired a pr team to help manage their campaign. The dems essentially took a bigger risk than it did in 2016 and it backfired on them again… except this time less people voted.

[–] jrittenh@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah I have zero fucks left. I am done with this bullshit. I canvassed for the first and last time this election as it's quite clear it did jack shit. I'm withdrawing from being a concerned citizen. The idiots voting for this shit can have it. I'm going full libertarian in my lifestyle. My family matters and nothing else. I am truly sorry for those who didn't vote for this and will suffer greatly. I just can't do it anymore.

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