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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Maybe a lot of Democrats also dislike women in power and black people. Maybe the American people, regardless of the party they say they support, are still very conservative. This is not an unpopular opinion outside the USA.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes. That is the ultimate conclusion for me as well. The American people voted for racism and sexism, because they are racist and sexist. America can’t do better because this is the best we have. Trump represents conservatives. It’s really confusing because his actions aren’t conservative… but here we are.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

This is the best we have

The best America can do is fucking awful. It's been this way for years. We elected Bush II twice. We elected Reagan twice. We elected Nixon twice. It's always been a shitty country filled with terrible people.

I'd like to say I'm glad other people are starting to realize something I've known for years, but people are going to get hurt because "patriotic liberals" didn't have the courage to admit we're the shithole country.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think it's that simple, but it's understandable to think like this just the next morning after such a defeat.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is insane. This was a failure of the Democratic party.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was a failure of the voter. No campaign Harris could've ran would've won. Biden needed to pick a different veep, that's why this is happening. Had it been a white guy, we'd be fine. Race and sex do matter

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats had a mulligan. Instead of finding a candidate that gave them the best chance, they pick the person next in line. Would have been difficult to pick someone else? Yes. Would it have been worth it? I think so.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We cant really test that theory now

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But we can hold the decision makers accountable.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh believe you me, the voters will be

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Obviously, the people who need to be held to account is the Democratic party. I'm sure they'll fuck that up too.

But how exactly are you going to hold the voters accountable?

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

by being annoying on the internet

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Im saying thrh voters will be held accountable by their government. Let the wilm of the people bite the people in the ass

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What the fuck does this mealie mouth wimp talk even mean? Oh they'll get their cumpuppance now! You'll see! You all will see. This is meaningless revenge therapy talk for losers.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah. Trump got fewer votes (when you account for the ~4% population growth since the 2020 election) than last time, while Dems lost a fuckton of votes, compared to 2020.

Trump won, both the election, and the popular vote, not because he got Dems to vote for him, but because a dozen million Dems decided not to vote at all.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are saying, in other words, that a black woman with indian ancestry and an exemplary career in the government was not enough incentive to go vote for self-perceived progressive people? That was actually my point.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Exemplary. Not saying she excelled at everything, but she had several responsibilities in different levels of government and never was impeached or tried for anything related to her work. Lol.

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, yeah. She's been in government positions for decades and hasn't had any real scandals. The worst thing I heard was that when she was a DA, her department worked with the local police, and the police department had a lab tech that was stealing cocaine and was testing the product at work several times. And a judge scolded the police department and DA office for not doing a better job handling that issue.

She had a pretty decent record of good morals and making effective, positive changes. Unless there's someone I haven't heard

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Honestly, yeah, there would have to be a decent amount of them with almost 20 million voters who didn't show up to vote.