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Read all about it at the above link. There's way too much to process here. This is going to be wild.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In order to be truly independent from platforms like Reddit, communities need to be owned by their members in ways that platforms cannot take away.

Oh, fuck off.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Translation: "look, if very profitable Nazis join our platform and harass users in very profitable ways there's nothing we can do about it because Blockchain."

[–] roboticide@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? Like someone actually wrote that.

After what Spez did. A few weeks ago. Fuck, maybe Spez himself wrote it.

I know we lost and the protests failed, but still, to write something like that... Doesn't actually surprise me, but also I'd think even a total moron would have enough self awareness not to say that.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protests didn't lose. They made lots of people leave who never would have.

I was a mod. Now Reddit doesn't have my free work anymore. Fuck em.

[–] roboticide@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They planned on implementing a change, and we protested that change, but users and mods gave in and that change happened anyway. The protest failed.

You can reframe that all you want, but we did not accomplish the actual objective of the protest, which was changes to API pricing. We lost.

I was a mod too. A very active user too. I left. And I'm happy I left, but that's just being happy that defeat doesn't taste nearly so bitter because there are viable alternatives.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Defeat? Do you think a forum exists independent of its users? If so, Spez has already brainwashed you.

Reddit can 100% make any changes they want to their site. That doesn't mean they win. Digg did the same the same thing and flopped. Myspace did what they wanted and flopped.

Users determine what wins by their presence. Do not give a fuck about Reddit.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

As soon as spez doubled down it should have been obvious that anyone who thought the protest could possibly get them to reverse the change was delusional.

Lemmy use skyrocketed as people fled reddit in droves, especially mods and content creators. Bot spam is at an all time high as mods lost their third party tools to deal with it.

Reddit isn't dead but the protest and exodus is just one more grievous wound to them that will keep effecting them over time. When Digg died and people fled to Reddit, Digg didn't cease to exist. Digg still exists like myspace still exists. Social media deaths are slow and protracted, and end with a whimper rather than a bang.

I'd hardly classify it as a defeat, even though success may be stretching things.

Also, the main article declaring it a failure was written by Gizmodo, who has a track record of pandering to advertisers and being slimy. They also used to be owned by the same group as Reddit, iirc. Basically they had purpose in demoralizing.