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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The blame falls on people in power not delivering for the working class/poor. There is no better ally for the GOP than modern spineless Dems who center their politics around them. Every third party voter could have voted for Harris and she still would have lost.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The blame falls on people in power not delivering for the working class/poor.

No, I'm pretty sure it was the people who refused to vote. All 20 million of them failed to identify the obvious threat to our democracy and react accordingly.

There is no better ally for the GOP than modern spineless Dems who center their politics around them.

Spoken like a true extremist. Now, the sad thing is, I never considered myself a Democrat. I was something of a hybrid between leftist and Democrat. After this election though, I'm neither. Now I'm an anti-extremist, extremist. And I know I'm not the only one.

Every third party voter could have voted for Harris and she still would have lost.

We all know that's a lie. 20 million votes to Harris would have swung it greatly in her favor.

But that's fine. You keep lying, and I'll keep hating extremists.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Cope all you want. But she made the choice to court Republicans and chase the ghosts of Cheney Era Voters and paid for it. When Trump can position himself as to speaking to working class issues than a Dem.

" hybrid between leftist and Democrat" Yeah a centrists no need to rebrand it.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Greatest campaign strategy known to man. Do nothing, shit talk your base, be surprised when you lose. Classic DNC.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You seem to have confused me for somebody who gives a fuck about the DNC.

I couldn't give a fucking rat ass about the DNC, the RNC, Independents, Green Party, Tea Party.

I only care that there are Nazis taking over the United States of America in January. I care that 125 to 200 million Americans will pay the price for the negligence of 20 million Americans.

I don't judge you based off of what your political leaning is.

I judge you based on if you are a fascist supporting boot licking Nazi loving piece of shit.

If you didn't vote this election cycle, you're as good as a fucking Nazi to me. If you voted third party, you're as good as a fucking Nazi to me. If you voted Republican, you are a fucking Nazi to me.

Please, by all means, vote however you want. Vote your conscience. But I'll still think you're a Nazi if you didn't vote for Harris.

Not because you are a Nazi, but because you didn't actually try to stop the Nazis.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Brother I voted harris. And while I fucking wish that everyone was either politically conscious enough or willing to let the ego drop for the time required to keep a Nazi out, they ain't. They never have and they never will. It's wishing upon a star and being utterly depressed and pissed that your wish didn't come true. It is better to blame the things in life you can change than wishing people were just different.

Ultimately you are upset at people for not ignoring the obvious failings of the DNC rather than upset at the DNC for not fixing their shit. They keep courting the right wing, they keep running Republican talking points. Right now I tune into CN fucking N and get some democrat strategist blaming trans people for existing.

I cannot blame the people who didn't vote. The DNC actively fucked them over, spit on them and told them shut up and stop protesting. That pisses people off and turns them away from you.

While I too wish we could do a lesser evil route here, that is wishing upon a star and no amount of shaming by you or the DNC will change that. Your yelling at a wall.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago

The word Nazi has lost all meaning. You sound like a maga calling Kamala names. You have no idea what trump will do, and they are not literal nazis as much as it makes you feel better to call them that.

The only difference in this election was which party would fuck us this time, but we are all really tired of the democrats fucking us and would like to see if the republicans can fuck us better.

The problem you have is this idea that america is better than this. Its not. Read your history.

If you really believe Nazis are taking over shouldnt you be one of the people who leaves the country before things get bad? Why aren't you advising people on how to resist this occupation? Or is it not a takeover and the public actually chose this?

[–] brianary@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't understand the "we were to small to matter" argument I've been seeing. If that's true, why on Earth would you expect to matter enough to move the Democratic platform, or to shape society after leftists "burn it all down" (whatever that means)?

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The argument is based on third party people who voted. They aren't including the group of likely voters who didnt, mainly because thats not easy to calculate.

They can see how many registered democrats vs have voted but I'm not sure about the other parties, if people register for them the same way.

[–] brianary@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

I guess I'm focused on the professed, not measured, group size.