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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I'm actually getting a bit upset at these idealists. They have this childish notion that democracy works in this tit for tat way where politicians "earn" your vote by instating policies that benefit you and that you believe in. Like grow the fuck up already.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I voted for Kamala..

It's the Democrats fault.

[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yup. They fucked us royally and I'm sort of waiting to see if people organize around this. The DNC needs to go. They've known about Trump since 16 and this is the campaign they run? They're trying to elect him at this point, I don't know what else to think.

Democrats: here's a rock and two nickels

Republicans: here's everything you've ever wanted and all the libertarian shit you used to jerk off to.

Liberals after the election: how did we lose??

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Lmao ditto

Anyone saying that it isn't the Democrats' fault is delusional. To win elections, you have to win favor with more people than the opposition, and Democrats failed to do that

Every argument I've been in since Tuesday has basically boiled down to "we didn't try to get more votes because we shouldn't have to"

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

If the goal of a campaign is to get people to vote for you then they failed spectacularly

[–] Davin@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think it was both playing chicken against each other. Dem leadership refused to listen to "progressives", I E.: things that most Americans wanted, and the voters refused to vote until the Dems listened to them.

So they crashed into each other and now the country is going to burn down.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If these last 10 years have taught me anything, it's that most Americans are not progressives.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago (5 children)

They don't identify that way but most Americans are in favor of progressive policies when asked

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Exactly this. Americans don't care about progress, they don't even care about human rights. They care about the economy. Clinton was right, "it's the economy stupid".

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[–] eugene171@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

The left: Infighting is why Kamala lost!

Also the left: In this essay I will detail every faction of the left that is guilty of infighting, and why they are wrong...

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

No, it's the democrats fault!

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes you should have voted for Kamala and yes it's the Democrats at fault. Both are true.

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[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 106 points 4 days ago (12 children)

I voted for her. The Democrats are still at fault.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (51 children)

Why are y'all so scared of blaming the people in power who failed reaching voters?

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

False choice fallacy. Both can be the problem.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago (18 children)
[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

This, this was the real problem. Something like 5% of registered Republicans voted for her. Dems usually win the popular vote. There are enough of them to win this, but they choose to alienate them.

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[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 109 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

You're in this picture whether you like it or not.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 89 points 4 days ago (21 children)

Are we, the Democratic party out of touch?

No, it's the electorate's fault!

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[–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Trump talking at "The Believers’ Summit" on July 26 2024, in West Palm Beach, Florida:

I don’t care how, but you have to get out and vote. And again, Christians, get out and vote just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Get out and vote! Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore! Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine, you won't have to vote anymore.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vote-four-years/

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago

Yeah its fucking both, duh.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 11 points 3 days ago (9 children)

This meme makes me so mad. It completely misses the point that the government is supposed to be working for us. They are here to make our lives better from our collective power. The right to rule is derived from the will of the people. You are misunderstanding how government is supposed to function on an essential level.

Making it out to be the voters fault because we didn't like the shit sandwich that the were serving us is absolutely incorrect. Harris had zero progressive ideas in her platform. She ran on basically the same platform as the GOP.

As soon as you start putting the onus on the voter, you are putting our politicians up as the aristocracy. You make them into our ruling class. This is incorrect. They are supposed to execute the will of the people.

I'm just absolutely shocked that so many people are acting like the voters failed, when the DNC has done this to us so many times lately.

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[–] ora@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 days ago (9 children)

They're both right. If you didn't vote for Harris, you were incredibly misguided. But it's not my job to get Harris elected, it's the DNC's.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"I can't just run on not being the other guy? I actually have to articulate a platform and get people to like me???"

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It may cost a lot of lives, but at least you got your moral high ground. Must be nice having the mental age of a 5yo and be content.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 61 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Harris ran a perfect campaign. If she was running as a (pre-Trump) republican. However, we know that:

  1. She isn't a Republican
  2. She banked on pulling in republican voters, instead of rallying her base
  3. Republicans will almost always vote for the R instead of policy
  4. She backed off of every single progressive idea she started with
  5. She trotted out establishment Democrats to lecture the electorate instead of inspire them
  6. Tlaib pulled twice the numbers as Harris as the only anti-genocide Palestinian in Congress

It's Harris and the Democrats. Should people have voted? Yes. Is it understandable why people didn't want to vote for the person telling them that she'll be a good republican and support a genocide? Also yes.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

There’s a perverse bunch here on lemmy that are blaming the Democrat Party for their failure to vote. They justify it by essentially saying that because they weren’t catered to (being further left than centrist platform Harris ran) that it’s the democrat’s fault we got trump. That’s some republican-level victim shit. “We did the opposite of what we should and things didn’t get better!”

No, motherfucker, you sat this one out in a battleground state so we got a fascist and that’s better than Harris? WTF kind of logic is that?

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (8 children)

ITT Americans trying to justify their apathy at allowing bigotry to rule.

The rest of us across the world are all just aghast at all of you and your lack of duty and never wanting to take personal responsibility.

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's amazing how we get convinced to fight each other. The reason the orange felon got elected is that people voted for him. They are at fault that he got elected. Stop bickering amongst each other and call out those who would incite you to do so!

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Voters voted a fascist ‘as a punishment’ knowing full well what was going to happen?

That’s akin to blaming your significant other for your decision to cheat on them.

Dear voters who pulled this shit: Go get some big pants on and wear some blame. While you’re at it grow the fuck up.

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