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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6201734

Interesting analysis.

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[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The author is a Marxist, but considering Democrats "center-left" is neither Marxist or un-Marxist.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It is generaly not marxist because it relies on the US overton window, a window we know to be HENIOUSLY to the right to the point where it can be argued both parties are Fascist. Generaly when a marxist left only starts to have meaning when you are not controlled by the Owning class.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am not sure what you are refering to in my statement of "it does not" Are you refering to the general marxist consnious that the US Dems are quite far right? are you replying to the claim that both parties could be discribed as Fascist, or is it that I said in general left only starts when a party is not controled by the owning class?

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm saying it does not rely on the overton window and probably the writer doesn't even know or care what that is.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the only way that you could possibly view the dems as center left is if you are looking at them through the overton window of the United States, where all talk and view is shifted so far to the right it is not even funny. You might not know what it is or that it exists but you are influenced by it.

So the question is, are they a marxist who is so locked into the US overton window that they think the dems are something they are not, or are they lieing about something.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 4 days ago

They are not lying and this is a genuine opinion. There is no foul play here. And to them, the Dems are center-left from experience compared to their Repub colleagues.