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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's wild that you can just pardon yourself. I'm pretty sure that kind of thing was even in the Magna Carta ages ago but it's a thing still in 2024

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

It's wild the president can pardon anyone. It completely bypasses the legal system and gives the executive branch too much power.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, the whole idea of having a president, and not a king, is that they are not above the law too. We saw how that idea was ensured by the supreme court.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm convinced that even on the stuff we know and has been proven in court about Trump, would have been enough to dethrone a European monarch, possibly violently, back in the 1800s, but Trump's supporters and most of the u.s just allows it and roll with it in 2024

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I mean, it is fun to joke about. However, I doubt it. Even as late at the 19th century monarchs were blatantly having rivals imprisoned, and executed. Having large groups of people just rounded up and imprisoned, and/or killed, were stealing large amounts of wealth from the tax payers, and just so, so, much shit. They only really ever found themselves suffering legal consequences when other aristocracy decided they needed to go, or that someone else would be better. That, or if material conditions go so bad widespread revolt broke out, and mob justice was served.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

As I understand it, this is a state case where he can't. Federal pardon powers extend only to federal cases.

[–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

He can for J6 and the documents case. But not for this or the Georgia case.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

Only even hypothetically for federal crimes. State crimes aren't federal jurisdiction and he has no pardon power over them. Usually pardon power over state crimes is in the hands of the governor.