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My main takeaway was that I still find pervasive irony just...so...tiring. My main concern was with the misgendering of people and weird accusations. People were upset, and I was concerned. I feel like I missed the humor (which isn't unlikely I suppose, I miss jokes all the time) when all these bits started to pop off. Just felt mocked for caring by the people who were supposedly famous for caring for their comrades. This is why we reject irony and embrace sincerity
I feel exactly the same way tbh, I can go to a trillion other sites if I wanna do endless
"actually, it's kinda cringe that you care tbh" bits that also aren't a bit where "you win" if you can pretend to be the most cool and detached i'm-not-online-i'm-just-here-to-observe-the-onlineness type person (I am also missing the joke here), I like Hexbear cuz of the sincerity
The misgendering ableist wrecker alts were rly exhausting tbh, especially when it seems like it's someone here doing it who has been banned for the same shit before multiple times but is still allowed to do it (as of now, I'm not in the admin chats so ofc idk for sure)
An admin has confirmed it wasn't the one who we all assumed
Ironically it was the attempt to tamp down the irony poisoning that actually led to this whole shitshow in the first place.
Admins fucked up TC69 fucked up especially, but the userbase also failed itself by deliberately misreading a good faith attempt to address how toxic some of the site culture has always been and how rising cynicism had made it worse.
I will say this though if I hadn't stepped down as an admin a while a go I would have either made things much worse or just purged a shitload of people and let the appeals sort it out.
The way I see it, it was more that there weren't really any attempts made at explaining what the last part of this sentence actually means. Plenty of people did sincerely ask for clarification, and got basically nothing beyond "this is bad because we've decided it's bad" or "go look at the modlog".
And when you say that things have actually gotten worse, I genuinely do not understand that because I don't share that impression. It's perfectly possible that I should, but it would have to actually be explained to me why.
Well I am not an admin anymore but from the CTH modlog alone I see a lot that most people don't unless you obsess over the modlog.
I agree that the communication on part of the admins wasn't great for sure. My main point was that everyone kinda failed eachother here outside a few stalwart persons that helped reign it all in.
Appreciate the honesty Nako. Wouldn't have expected you to fly off the handle but you know you better than I do. The whole thing is really just kinda silly and very regrettable.
Understatement of the year lol
Yeah most are pointing at the failure of admin and mods but feel like the wild speculation and bad-faith interpretation of every response from admins contributed in the struggle spiraling out of control.
Then there was someone (perhaps arouge mod)? making alts and harassing users that was adding fule to fire. The ban-bit which might have been intended to release some pressure got a mini-blowback.